Clay Clark: Now, if somebody’s listening right now, Z, and they’re thinking to themselves, they’re going, “Look, I want to take the time to make out a schedule. I want to do that. I want to make out an ideal game plan. I want to go ahead and make that marketing calendar or write down my vision for my company. I want to be a strategic planner taught from the best business coach.”
Robert Zoeller: Sure.
Clay Clark: “But you don’t understand. I get so many emails, so many text messages, so many Facebook updates. I got a guy who’s writing some bad comments on LinkedIn right now. I can’t possibly stop because I have developed this thing called monkey brain, where I just can’t stop responding to all the inputs, all the data points there.” What advice would you have for the entrepreneur who feels overwhelmed and just doesn’t feel like they can ever get on top it?
Robert Zoeller: Well, I tell what we do at our in-person workshops. We have dedicated a significant portion of the time to teaching you how to do time management because that’s what it’s really all about. I mean, it’s your time. It’s your day. It’s your hours. Are you going to let somebody else tell you what to do? As an entrepreneur, you’re supposed to be telling yourself what to do during that time. So getting control of that, putting in stops, and putting in controls on that is very important, and so one of the things that we’re very proud to teach you. We you that on thrive15.com. We actually incorporated Lee Cockerell’s system into it. Who’s Lee Cockerell? Why he just managed a little thing called Walt Disney World. What’s that?
Clay Clark: Never heard of that.
Robert Zoeller: It’s kind of like a big theme park. You might recognize Mickey Mouse.
Jason Bailey: Nope. Never heard of it.
Robert Zoeller: 40,000 employees that he managed on a day-to-day basis, and how did he do it? Well, he did it because of time management, and so it’s something you’ve got to get your head wrapped around. We hear it all the time from entrepreneurs and a business coach. “I don’t have the time. I would do that, but I don’t have time to get that done.” So time management’s very important.
Clay Clark: I want to kind of break this down because I know a lot of people feel overwhelmed with their time, so I want to ask you, Z, and I want to ask you, Jason, and I also want to get your feedback, Vanessa, about this. For the entrepreneurs out there who say, “I don’t have time to get everything done in my day. I don’t have time to be proactive about my schedule,” Z, what are some things that you do on a daily basis as relates to managing your time that you think most people probably don’t do that? It’s a move that you do. It’s a unique move to you. What is a move that you do that a lot of people aren’t doing?
Robert Zoeller: Well, every morning I spend … I’m very purposeful in spending some time without my phone on, disconnected from the world, if you will, and I gather my thoughts. I’m a mapping out my day. I’m being purposeful in what I need to get done for that day. I’m reviewing it, and so I kind of have what I would call a … it’s kind of a quiet time for me in the morning just to kind of reset everything and make sure I’m focused for the day and what I need to do for that day. That’s one of the things, one of the little moves I do in the morning.
Clay Clark: Now, I don’t think it’s weird at all, your quiet time. The first time I walked in, and I’m like, “Z.” And you’re going [crosstalk 00:11:29].
Robert Zoeller: The incense wafting …
Clay Clark: And it was weird because you were standing on your head, so I was trying to figure out, should I also stand on my head [crosstalk 00:11:37] so you can see me properly? So I stand on my head, and I’m like, “Psst. Z,” and then I realized that you didn’t want to be reached at that time, you know? But seriously, where do you do your quiet time? Where is this? Are you in the bath? [crosstalk 00:11:48]
Robert Zoeller: It’s a magical-
Clay Clark: Are you in the river? Are you by a tree? Are you in a tree?
Robert Zoeller: Well, what I do is I drive until I find a rainbow, and then I park at the bottom of that, and I sit there in the glow of the rainbow, and that’s what I use. Some days it’s tougher to find a rainbow than others.
Jason Bailey: Eat your Skittles while you are there?
Robert Zoeller: Well, sometimes when I’m really kind of needing to think as a business coach-
Vanessa Clark: I really think we need to talk about the best quiet time we’ve ever witnessed was when we went to go interview Johnny G.
Clay Clark: Oh, my gosh. Johnny G.
Vanessa Clark: Incredible.
Clay Clark: This guy, he’s the inventor of the spin class movement, and so a lot of the video guys … We’re out there in Santa Barbara. We show up at this guy’s house, and he says he doesn’t refer to it as a house. It’s his dojo. He is a business coach with a dojo.
Vanessa Clark: Well, it was Dan McKenna, me, and I think another video guy and possible a business coach, and we were going to swing by and pick up Clay in a little bit, so we’re alone, and we drive into what looks like this rain forest compound.
Jason Bailey: Oh, wow.