Time Management Mastery | How to Experience Success In the Areas of Your Faith, Family, Finances, Fitness, Friendship, Fun & Focused Attention + Join Eric Trump At Clay Clark’s Dec. 4-5 ThrivetimeShow.com Business Conf.

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(Speaker 5)
Some shows don’t need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show, but this show does. In a world filled with endless opportunities, why would two men who have built 13 multi -million dollar businesses altruistically invest five hours per day to teach you the best practice business systems and moves that you can use? Because they believe in you, and they have a lot of time on their hands. They started from the bottom, now they’re here.

(Speaker 50)
It’s the Thrive Time Show starring the former U . S.

(Speaker 5)
Small Business Administration’s Entrepreneur of the Year, Clay Clark, and the entrepreneur trapped inside an optometrist’s body, Dr. Robert Zunder. Two men, eight kids, co -created by two different women, 13 multi -million dollar businesses. We started from the bottom, now we’re at the top. Teaching you the systems to get what we got. Colton Dixon’s on the hooks. I break down the books.

(Speaker 5)
He’s bringing some stump and the good looks. As the father, that’s why I’m up.

(Speaker 2)
So if you see my wife and kids, please, it’s the CNC up on your radio.

(Speaker 5)
And now, let’s go.

(Speaker 2)
Dr. Sherwood, on today’s show, I’m excited to have you join us. For anybody out there that doesn’t know, you’re the founder of a successful medical practice, Sherwood .

(Speaker 42)
tv.

(Speaker 2)
You’re also a former pro athlete. You also used to be a member of the power team back in the day, the Christian Evangelistic Organization. You were ripping phone books in Oakland. other feats of strength. You’re also an author, an Amazon best -selling author. You’re also a film producer.

(Speaker 2)
You used to be a member of the SWAT team, because you had nothing else to do. And welcome onto The Thrive Time Show. How are you, sir?

(Speaker 3)
Hey, I’m doing well.

(Speaker 49)
Thanks, Clay.

(Speaker 3)
Good to see you, as always.

(Speaker 2)
So I want to talk to you today about becoming successful. So this is not a show for people that want to just get by. and to become a middle manager at your local Starbucks. No disrespect to anybody who’s chosen that lot in life, but this is a show for people that want to become super successful. And I want to get into these seven areas of life. I’m not saying you’re perfect in all these areas, but I want to get your take on it.

(Speaker 2)
And I’ve got members of my team that will be off camera, but on mic, and they can ask some follow -up questions for you. And so if you’re watching today’s show, I define success in the following seven categories. And maybe somebody out there, you disagree, and that’s OK. But here we go. Faith. Family, finances, fitness, friendship, fun, and focused attention.

(Speaker 2)
What am I saying? Faith, family, finance, fitness, friendship, fun, focused attention. There is not a quiz on this at the end of today’s show, but there is this thing called success or lack thereof, and you’ll experience it. And so I want to talk about these areas because we all have 24 hours in a day. We all have 24 hours in a day. And yesterday, Dr. Sherwood, somebody I know very well, reached out to me and they said, hey, Clay, how you doing?

(Speaker 2)
You doing good? Good. Haven’t talked to you in a decade -ish. Could you lend me $50 ,000? True story. Now, that kind of thing happens to me often, and it’s usually people that I haven’t talked to in a while, and they say, hey, man, I was watching the show.

(Speaker 2)
Remember me from college or high school or whatever? I used to work for you. And I got this thing. I need $50 ,000 to do the thing. I need $20 ,000. But yesterday, it was a $50 ,000 to do the thing.

(Speaker 2)
And I said, well, what’s the thing? And they go, well, you know, I’m going through my second divorce, and I need somebody to help me pay for my divorce insurance. And I’m going, okay.

(Speaker 1)
Uh, so I, I just, I want to get your thoughts on this cause no one’s perfect, but I want to get your thoughts on this when at 24 hours a day, that’s always the time we have.

(Speaker 3)
How do you find time, Dr. Sherwood for your faith? Well, I’ll even go down to a little bit more of a microcosm of that. 1 ,440 minutes a day is what we get. So I’ll get down to minutes and I need to start off with what I believe. You put it number one, faith. So how do I start my day?

(Speaker 3)
And I’m not trying to say everybody has to do this, but I start my day on my knees. I forced myself to get on my knees and I prayed to a God who I believe is superior to me. who I believe had loved me enough to live in me and save me from myself and give me a home on the other side of this earth called heaven. And so I start right there and I make sure that I thank him for that before I ask him for anything.

(Speaker 2)
And that’s for me, that’s how I start my day.

(Speaker 3)
And we all have 24 hours a day and you’re saying controversial take, you’re saying 24 hours is how many minutes per day?

(Speaker 39)
1 ,440 minutes.

(Speaker 2)
Okay. And a lot of times what will happen if you’re around super successful people, I see this all the time, because I have shadowed and been around the likes of somebody like a George Foreman, the founder of Hobby Lobby, the head of Quick Trip. But I just really have always pursued being around super successful people, because it was the best way that I could learn was to shadow people that are successful, because I didn’t grow up around success. And I found that all of them walk with a sense of urgency. They talk with a sense of urgency. And a lot of people think that they’re irritated, but they’re just focused.

(Speaker 2)
So you hear that a lot. People are like, oh, they seem pissed, or they seem focused. And it’s because they really know every day where they’re going to spend every moment of that day. So again, how many minutes per day is that there, sir?

(Speaker 38)
1 ,440.

(Speaker 2)
That’s fair. OK, so faith. We blocked out faith. time for faith. I’ll tell you in my life, what I try to do, this is my process.

(Speaker 3)
I find like right now I’m reading Amos.

(Speaker 2)
Yeah. I’m like on Amos like the 10th time. And while we’re reading Amos, so it’s kind of near the end of the Bible. And I think a lot of the things that Amos prophesied would happen are happening. So I’m just diving into it. And I don’t claim to be a quick learner or a quick reader, but I am a person who blocks out time in my schedule to do these things.

(Speaker 2)
So for me, I just have to block out time for it. If I don’t do it, it’s not going to happen. And I think a lot of us, we want to read the Bible, but we don’t block out time for it. What would happen to you and your busy schedule if you did not block out time for your faith? It would be like trying to run a race and starting off going the wrong way of a race, you know, if I’m trying to run a sprint and trying to run 100 yards going forward, that would be like starting off 20 years, 20, 20 yards behind. For me, getting time in God’s word and with him gives me a head start in the right direction.

(Speaker 2)
As a matter of fact, it calibrates me in the right direction as opposed to the wrong direction.

(Speaker 3)
So I guess I need to be put on the starting line every day.

(Speaker 2)
Maybe everybody’s not like that, but I need to be put on the starting line and kind of positioned in a way that I’m supposed to go. Faith, family, finances. Faith, family, finance. Let’s go to family. Family, I find that if I block out time, so like today I’ll be taking my wife on a date. You know why I’ll do it?

(Speaker 2)
Because it’s a date. Every day I take my wife on a date. Why? Because I do it every day. You know, I don’t hate myself enough not to do that. So it’s important that I block out time and then we do that.

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But if I don’t block out time, it won’t happen. Because there’s always another client demand. There’s always another employee issue. There’s always something happening. Blocking out time for your family.

(Speaker 3)
That’s a big thing. Dr. Sherwood, why do we have to block out time for family? Well, if you don’t put it as a priority, it’s going to get put behind. And you mentioned faith. That should be number one. Your family should be number two, because that’s closest to you.

(Speaker 3)
And if you to write down the real finality of number two, it’s your wife, because she’s one with you. So just like you, I will take Michelle on a date every Friday night, regardless of what anybody says, does, or whatever, whoever calls, it’s taken. And I’ve done that for years since we’ve been married.

(Speaker 2)
And I know she appreciates it. But more than anything else, I think we appreciate it, because it gives us time that we can actually talk and communicate and not in the hustle bustle of the business. Faith, family, finances, finances, finances, what? Hello. Levi, I want to get your thoughts on this. You are a business consultant with us.

(Speaker 2)
That’s what you do. You also call inbound leads, so people that reach out to us and they request information, you have to call them.

(Speaker 25)
How many outbound calls do you make a day at this point there, Levi?

(Speaker 34)
Do you think you can guess?

(Speaker 2)
Uh, maybe 80 to a hundred maybe outbound calls a day. Yeah. Okay.

(Speaker 15)
Around there. And, and Rhian, I want to get your thoughts.

(Speaker 14)
You help manage the call center.

(Speaker 2)
Uh, how many outbound calls can our call people make a day? Um, the record for calls in total inbound and outbound is 806.

(Speaker 15)
What’s the average day?

(Speaker 2)
I would say the average amount of calls is right around 300. Now, if somebody’s not focused on making calls, where, where are they going to spend their time in the call center?

(Speaker 23)
If they’re not focused on making calls?

(Speaker 2)
Oh, they’re going to, they’re going to sit way under a hundred. And what will they do with their time? Try and talk, try and distract other people in a call center.

(Speaker 24)
Yeah.

(Speaker 2)
The idea of a call center is to call in a center, a center that’s devoted to calling.

(Speaker 15)
And you’re trying to tell me in the call center environment.

(Speaker 2)
So we’ll not make calls. Yeah. Yeah. What do they do at this during this time? They’ll talk and they’ll distract others. There it is.

(Speaker 2)
Distraction. So faith, family, finances, finances. So Levi, you’re working with a coaching client or coaching clients, right? Yep. And you, in the clients you’re working with, they have homework to do and had never met you before. it yet where anybody has ever and i’m not looking for specific people but have you had have you seen it yet where someone didn’t have time to get it done uh i mean they say that all the time yes there it is that’s the number one excuse that humanity’s come up with i don’t have time and what are they doing with this time i don’t get it i don’t i don’t get it what is happening to the time where is it going is it a black hole No, I think it goes right back to what we’re talking about a moment ago.

(Speaker 2)
It’s like, how do you prioritize that time? I like to look at it like this, you know, you got to go back to that 1 ,440 minutes a day. When you spend that time, you can’t get a refund like spending money on buying something. You don’t get to take it back for refund.

(Speaker 3)
You get one shot at it.

(Speaker 40)
So when people are in the call room, you’ve got one shot at making those calls.

(Speaker 2)
When people are trying to get things done, you’ve got one shot at getting things done. And there is no excuse because we all get paid the same. If you look at your allowance or your wages of time, it’s 1 ,440 minutes if you’re paid in minutes. And so if you get paid the same, there’s really no excuse for anybody. If we all had the same opportunity, what excuses we had that can hold water? Zero.

(Speaker 1)
Now, today, interesting situation.

(Speaker 2)
And I’m not saying this to name drop. I’m saying it because it’s true. Eric Trump, I’ve helped him on his book, his new book that just came out called Under Siege. And he sent me off a text today that said, hey, we just hit number one on the Amazon bestsellers list. And give me a call. We win free.

(Speaker 2)
Call win free. So I gave him a call. And he said, hey, I’d like to get on your broadcast. Can we make that happen? And so I moved stuff around to make it happen. You know, and so, but I have a calendar.

(Speaker 2)
So let’s get back into this faith, family, finance, fitness, friendship, fun. If you don’t have a calendar and a to -do list, you’re going to get ambitious and pissed. Let me try that again. If you don’t have a calendar and a to -do list, you’re just going to get ambitious and pissed. That’s what’s going to happen. You’re going to be ambitious and pissed if you don’t have a calendar and a to -do list.

(Speaker 2)
It’s just going to happen. And so I said, Eric, no problem. What about 10 a . m. Central, 11 a . m.

(Speaker 2)
Eastern? Could we do that time? He said, absolutely. Boom. So I called Pastor Jackson. Jackson, could you come over here to hop on this interview with me?

(Speaker 2)
He said, absolutely. Let’s make it happen. But like, we made it all.

(Speaker 5)
This is all previous to six in the morning.

(Speaker 2)
So before six in the morning, we’d already.

(Speaker 29)
Now, why, Dr. Sherwood, do you suppose that Eric Trump could text me at 530 in the morning?

(Speaker 2)
Why could he text? Why is that normal for, again, all the people that I hang out with?

(Speaker 3)
I want to be clear. Just be clear. Everybody that I choose to hang out with, they’re all up before 6 a . m. Is that possible? How did he know that he could text me at 530 in the morning and he could get a response from me?

(Speaker 3)
How could he? Was he a mind reader? How could he?

(Speaker 2)
How is it possible that Eric Trump would know that I would respond to a text message before 6 in the morning? Well, because you’re a creature of habit. You are predictable, you’re reliable, you get up early, you get the job done. And that old saying goes, the early bird catches the worm. But I think the early bird gets time up for everybody else and gets way ahead of the game. So you guys both do that.

(Speaker 2)
I know you and I have texted back and forth at five in the morning.

(Speaker 3)
And for me, normal for you, it’s normal for him. It’s normal. And I have seen that as well. People that are, quote unquote, successful in life do get up early and are not lazy. Faith, family, finances, finances, fitness, fitness. You’re a guy who has achieved unbelievable success in the world of fitness.

(Speaker 3)
How do you find time for fitness? How are you? How are you carving out time?

(Speaker 2)
What are you adding on an extra hour to the day? Are you, what are you doing? So my fitness occurs after I spend time in prayer and the word in the morning, because I know that habitually, where do people try to push their workout to the end of the day? So I figure if I’m going to have any success, I want to push it to the beginning of the day. And I find that if I can exhaust myself or get into some physical exertion, my mind is prepared to go into my work part of my day a little more ready to go. And so I do it in the morning.

(Speaker 2)
First thing, I have a plan. Even with my workouts, I don’t want to just do whatever. I have a plan within each session I do, and I do that every single day. So faith, family, finance, fitness, friendship. This just in, you become the average of the five people you spend the most time with. I’ll never forget this.

(Speaker 2)
My wife and I, we’d been married two years, and my wife made a comment. She goes, you know, everyone that we hang out with, we were at the time, I was 22, she’s 22. She says, everyone we hang out with is in our 40s. What is going on? And I’m like, well, it’s because I’m very intentional to only hang out with people that are going where I want to go. And it was very intentional.

(Speaker 2)
It was very intentional. But up until that point, because i was a dj all my friends were were rappers all of them so everyone i hung out with was a rapper or uh you know because that’s that’s the crowd that i rolled with back then and i had to be very intentional about choosing who i’m spending time with i want to get your thoughts on that i mean that’s a that’s a that’s a thing that’s a unique thing right there being intentional about your friendships back to my call yesterday i got a call on a sunday that makes sense from someone who said oh i haven’t talked to this person in over seven years eight years i mean look at him thinking about thinking out loud probably eight years I don’t even know what it’s like to be in that kind of mindset where you don’t talk to someone for eight years and then you hit them up for $50 ,000. But there are people that live like this. I talked to my wife and I said, Let’s make sure we don’t talk to this person again, please. I don’t know how I got a hold of him.

(Speaker 3)
I don’t know what happened. Maybe I put my phone number on too many podcasts, but I’m going to block him. Because you become the average of the five people you spend the most time with.

(Speaker 2)
That’s a biblical concept. That’s a biblical idea. Proverbs says, for a companion of fools shall suffer harm. Let’s talk about this for a second. Being intentional with the people you’re around. What’s your process for this so you don’t spend your day surrounded by jackasses?

(Speaker 2)
Well, it seems like to me that Jesus set a good example, hanging out with Peter, James, and John, even though he had his 12, 11, back to 12 disciples, he still picked three that he hung out with. So it’s usually on one hand, and I don’t want to waste my time with people that are going to suck the life out of me. They’re going to try to borrow money. That’s not a friend.

(Speaker 3)
That’s somebody that’s just using you.

(Speaker 41)
So what does friendship mean anyway?

(Speaker 2)
Friendship means that it goes two ways. It means that someone would be there for you. And you’d be there for them if need be. And I want to hang out with people that actually model what I want to be like. Kind of like what you said, that model what I want to be like. If they don’t model what I want to be like, I don’t have time for it.

(Speaker 2)
And I’m not going to make time for it because it’s not, it’s just wasting time. It’s like flushing those minutes down the toilet. Okay. So faith, family, finance, fitness, friendship. fun. You got to block out time to have a good time.

(Speaker 2)
If you don’t block out time for it, it won’t happen.

(Speaker 7)
Then finally, focused attention, you know, and so I’m always working on a book.

(Speaker 2)
That’s where I put my focused attention, working on books. I’m always writing songs and books and business plans for clients. That’s what I’m doing. And so I just, I find for me, I enjoy working on songs. I’m working on books, new songs, writing new songs, writing new books, and working on client business plans. So I block out time for my focused attention there.

(Speaker 48)
So that being said, Levi, as you’re seeking to coach your clients to become the very best they can possibly be.

(Speaker 15)
What question would you have for Dr. Sherwood who’s having success in, I would say, seven areas simultaneously? That’s so many questions I have.

(Speaker 3)
I’ll go to you. It’s wonderful to hear this, but you have to apply it. Randy, any question for Dr. Sherwood? Because again, most entrepreneurs say, I don’t have time. What question would you have?

(Speaker 3)
Yeah. Um, so all those things you touched on, you know, obviously you can’t do any of it without being focused on it. So what keeps you focused on all of your goals, all of the different aspects of your life? A lot of people say I’m hyper -focused. In other words, I don’t really have a lot of time for small talk. You know, it’s telling.

(Speaker 3)
You know, Clay was saying a moment ago, and I think that matters. I think I kind of imagine a horse race, you know, they have to have those blinders. Why? Because they can get distracted on what’s the side or the front or side of them or even behind them. And so I look at life like a big race. And I want to win, not just for me wanting to win, but the Bible talks about us running the race to win.

(Speaker 3)
And so if I do that, that means that focus is a part of who I am.

(Speaker 2)
It means that I should be disciplined in all I do. So self -discipline And focus should be one of the things. And I look at that, not to over -spiritualize it, but I look at it as a part of the gift of God living in me. It’s focus and discipline because, you know, Jesus was very focused about what he did. He didn’t waste a lot of time.

(Speaker 14)
It was always very intentional. And I want to model my life after that. So I have to just honestly lean on him to help me with that.

(Speaker 3)
Otherwise, you know, like all humanity, I could be unfocused as well. But with him, I can be very focused. So McKenna, I want to get your thoughts here. You’re doing graphic design. You’re also working in our call center. You’re also doing a lot of things simultaneously.

(Speaker 3)
Do you have any question or questions for Dr. Sherwood? Well, OK. So everyone has days that are exhausting or overwhelming.

(Speaker 2)
And despite being planned, having a to -do list, calendar, et cetera, how do you stay intentional and present even when work, life, or any of the F7 goals gets overwhelming? Well, I think that life can be overwhelming. you know, three -dimensional, four -dimensional acid trip, you don’t know where it’s going to go. You’re going to have bad days and good days.

(Speaker 39)
That’s the way it is.

(Speaker 2)
But ultimately, and just a gentle pushback on what you said, I’m not going to do my fallback that says things like this to self. I’m not going to say, well, you know, I’m just human. I want to have good days and bad days. I’m not going to say that because if I say that, I’m setting myself up for the expectation of good days and bad days. I’m not going to say that, you know, oftentimes I get overwhelmed. Even though that is probably there, I’m just not going to verbally say that, because if I say that, it actually creates that in my life.

(Speaker 2)
Real quick, I want to say something. This is very interesting, what you just said. And this is a great question. This is interesting. When JT used to work here in the office, now he runs Make Your Dog Epic and does a great job with that. A few times he came and was like, who are you talking to?

(Speaker 2)
And I go, myself. And he’s like, is it a good conversation? Or something like that. And it was just because, for me, I totally know what you’re saying. So it’s like, right now, what’s going on is Eric, who I value that relationship with, I’m working with his book right now, and it will be the number one book in the world. The profundity of that idea, there’s one earth that I’m aware of, and his book will be the number one book on that earth.

(Speaker 2)
It’s going to be the number one in the world. And so, you know, maybe I’ll reflect more on that later, what that means. But, you know, it’s been an honor to help him on the book cover and laying out the book and all those things. But once you do that, you have to get it out to the world. So we have a very specific plan with which we’re going to do that. And we’re executing that plan.

(Speaker 2)
And then my son is hosting a praise and worship night tonight at Metro Christian. And I’ve got those are those are things going on. And then I’m taking my daughters tonight to practice driving. And that’s going on. Okay, then we got this conference coming up here. And that’s going on.

(Speaker 3)
So you got maybe And then we’re renovating a ranch right now, and that’s going on, okay. And then we’re renovating the… And then there’s this song right now about no drifting that I’m working on with Brett, and it’s the great irony about the song about not drifting is the song can’t drift, and so I gotta get that done. So there’s that going on, and there’s just a lot going on. So what I do is I take all of that energy, maybe that overwhelm, and I put it on a to -do list, and I just go line by line, and I get sort of ruthless with myself about getting stuff done. That would be kind of my approach to it, too, is just going back to the list.

(Speaker 3)
When those feelings of overwhelm might occur, it’s like, go back to the list.

(Speaker 2)
Do you have a move that you do when those, because again, for today, I mean, I did not wake up today expecting to do a multitude of interviews related to this book and all the things, but it’s happening and it has to happen. Do you have any kind of go -to move you go back to? Yeah, it’s funny you would say that, because I’m going to hold up something that’s sitting in front of me, and here it is.

(Speaker 47)
It’s a list.

(Speaker 14)
So I go back to that every day.

(Speaker 2)
And you can see right now there’s a little one scratch on this list.

(Speaker 31)
I had to write six things down that just kind of came up, you know.

(Speaker 7)
And this is interesting because when I take them from my brain that are coming at me, these things that might not be on my normal to -do list, I have what’s called brain dump them. I have to get them out of my brain on a piece of paper where I can see them. Otherwise, it’s still rattling around in my head. And if you’ve got so much stuff rolling around in your head, It certainly can be confusing, but if you can take it and put it on a piece of paper, it almost detaches that or it almost purges that from your brain and puts it on a paper where it’s outside of you can deal with it better. Did you have a follow -up question to that, McKenna? Because that was a good question.

(Speaker 7)
You good?

(Speaker 2)
Yeah, I’m good.

(Speaker 3)
Okay, we’ll leave that back to you. Yep, yep. So my question to you is, earlier we were talking about discipline. You can have motivation, but let’s say I’m trying to wake up in the morning at 3 .30 a . m.

(Speaker 3)
to go on a run and the alarm clock goes off and it’s super early and I press snooze. You can have that motivation, but in that time you have to stay disciplined. What did you do to build discipline? It’s kind of a broad question. I like it. Really good.

(Speaker 3)
I like it, Levi, because like a lot of people want to try to do things. Trying never did anything. You know, I sometimes I’ll have people in my office say, well, I’m trying to eat right. And I’ll I’ll take a pen like I’ve got in my hand. I’ll put it in front of them. I’ll say try to pick that up.

(Speaker 3)
And every single time they’ll pick it up. And I said, you don’t try to either do it or you don’t. So discipline is doing and motivation or talking about I might be trying.

(Speaker 2)
So you’ve got to decide I’m not going to be a trier. I’m going to be a doer. And you’re right. Three thirty in the morning is early. Great. Sound like a good time for run for me.

(Speaker 2)
So it’s not an option then to push snooze. Don’t make that an option. Don’t let it be an option. The option is to decide how far you want to run.

(Speaker 3)
That’s your options. And that’s the way it’s got to be. Awesome. It’s powerful stuff. Now, shifting gears for a minute here. Your website is Sherwood .

(Speaker 3)
tv. I’m going to pull it up real quick here.

(Speaker 2)
I know in my life, I’ve probably referred you or know of people that have been referred to you through our broadcast or whatever at this point in the hundreds. And I just know that typically, People typically will tell, people I know, clients of mine, they lose an average of 40 pounds with you if they’re with you for six months. It’s a crazy number, I don’t even, it doesn’t make sense to me, but it happens. So that’s a real thing. My kids see you, family sees you, you have a great practice there, Sherwood . tv.

(Speaker 2)
Tell us all the solutions that you have available at Sherwood . tv. Well, I think you mentioned one of them.

(Speaker 38)
The weight crisis is one that’s really affecting our nation in a bad way right now, because we know that because of excess weight we find in our frame, excess poor habits, it has increased the cases of type 2 diabetes, which shouldn’t exist, and osteoporosis, Alzheimer’s disease.

(Speaker 46)
cancers, heart disease, autoimmune disease, etc.

(Speaker 13)
And really when you get down to it, we’re in the business of reversing the opportunity or reversing the chance that you will get those diseases. So we want to get rid of any excess, you know, fat we have, get people’s lifestyle right, give them confidence back so they can, you know, one of the greatest thing you can have in life is resilience to bounce back if you were to get knocked over. Don’t expect it, but if you get knocked over, resilience says you’re going to get back up.

(Speaker 45)
So I think we, probably create a pattern and a platform for that as well as anybody right now. Dr. Sherwood, you’re a great American. You’re a beautiful man.

(Speaker 4)
And you’re so strong physically, you’re scary.

(Speaker 44)
So I encourage you to check out your website, sherwood . tv, because we will be terrified of what happens if we don’t go to his website.

(Speaker 6)
So go to his website. We don’t want to get him angry, because you wouldn’t like it when he’s angry. That’s sherwood . tv. Dr. Sherwood, thank you so much, sir. We’ll talk to you soon.

(Speaker 6)
All right. See you later.

(Speaker 39)
We hold these truths to be self -evident. All men and women created by God, you know the thing.

(Speaker 43)
We will shut you down.

(Speaker 6)
We will cite you. And if we need to, we will arrest you. And we will take you to jail, period.

(Speaker 2)
I wasn’t thinking of the Bill of Rights when we did this. But no amendment, no amendment to the Constitution is absolute.

(Speaker 23)
God actually spoke to me.

(Speaker 30)
He spoke about sacredness.

(Speaker 42)
He said to me, Kim, what I play in many, many people is sacred.

(Speaker 1)
And if anybody touches what is sacred to me, then it is to him. for them. So what I’ve done in the United States of America is sacred. And there are people on every side that are trying to destroy what I deem sacred. And it’s not going to happen. This is the definition of criminal conspiracy, racketeering, and collusion.

(Speaker 1)
This is not a theory. This is evidence. Because I have unveiled this country to spread the light to the rest of the world. Go against sacred things that God puts into the very heart and the soil of this nation. This was sacred to God. Well, Pastor Jackson, on today’s show, we’re going to interview a guest, perhaps you’ve heard of him.

(Speaker 41)
So ladies and gentlemen, get yourself psychologically prepared and physically prepared for today’s guest, Eric Tromp, ladies and gentlemen.

(Speaker 2)
Welcome Eric Tromp on to the Time Show. Look at this. I love this. I love this greeting. Thank you, guys. It’s good to be on.

(Speaker 2)
So Clay, I’m very, very excited.

(Speaker 1)
And Pastor, I miss you. I miss going over to the church. Always have a great time together. But we are officially beating Kamala Harris. Not only did we beat her in November, but we are officially beating her with this right here. So Amazon, we just went to number one.

(Speaker 1)
And Kamala is number three, and so it’s another good day. It’s another good Monday in the United States of America. I love it. Amen to that. Now, I want to ask you guys, I want to address the elephant in the room because, Pastor, you did a sermon on Sunday specifically about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was on the Reawaken America tour at multiple events.

(Speaker 1)
Eric, I know he was a good friend of yours. I want to get your thoughts here. Many people look to you as a source of wisdom, and we’re all struggling with emotions here. What’s your reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Well, I went from visceral anger to sadness, back to probably anger, back to sadness. I think as a lot of this whole thing transpired, I mean, You know, guys, so many people thought that he was just a guy who really changed the hearts and minds of the youth in this country.

(Speaker 1)
He certainly did. He created the greatest youth movement probably in the history of the nation. It was a big aspect of my father getting elected and loved my father dearly, loved me dearly. I mean, I met Charlie when his 21 -year -old Katie came into a Trump organization and he told me about all the dreams and aspirations he had to change the minds of young voters and to make sure that they weren’t getting indoctrinated in schools and to have a major platform on college campuses and to take over student bodies and, you know, to be elected in student leadership. And he accomplished all those things in a 10 -year period of time. I mean, everything he told me he was going to accomplish, he did.

(Speaker 1)
But, you know, I told the story yesterday, but there was an old Jamaican guy who came up to me yesterday as I was walking to the studio. I did Fox & Friends yesterday morning. And he goes, you know, sir, I’m so sorry about Charlie Kirk, you know, in very kind of broken English, very sorry about Charlie. You know, he was a good Christian. I am Charlie Kirk. I mean, those were his exact words.

(Speaker 1)
I am Charlie Kirk. He was a good Christian. And I go, you know, this guy doesn’t fit any of the demographic that anybody’s talking about. You know, he wasn’t young, right? I mean, he wasn’t even from the United States. And yet, Charlie had such profound impact on his life, because, you know, Charlie talked about God, and he talked about faith, and he talked about America.

(Speaker 1)
He talked about the American flag. I mean, all the things that you fight for and have fought for, beyond anybody I ever met, you know, just about Clay, beyond anybody I’ve ever met. I mean, what you did with Rerate Waken and what you and I did and all those events across the country. I mean, you deserve tremendous credit because, you know, you helped that movement. What, you know, the pastor has done right here, you know, in his church and not backing down during the times of COVID.

(Speaker 1)
Same thing, you know, you were a fighter. The pastor was a fighter.

(Speaker 2)
Charlie was a hell of a fighter. He did that for the youth movement. What’s become so clear is he did it for so many others, not just the youth movement, but so many people loved him, and they’re disgusted by what happened. We’ve been called fascists for the last eight years, 10 years, yet not once has any of us gotten a fight, yet a young kid dressed in all black with his face covered is sitting on top of a roof at a college overlooking free speech with a German -made rifle.

(Speaker 4)
you know, taking shots at our leaders, right? I mean, I would think that if there’s ever a fascist message, that’s what it is. But he’s a dear friend. Erica is an amazing woman. His children are cute as hell. And we lost a great man.

(Speaker 4)
But let me just kind of end with this. I never thought in a thousand years they would have ever anticipated the ramifications of something like this. being as draconian as they are. When you see that Turning Point has over 30 ,000 applications for colleges across the country and now around the world, when you see the streets of London lined with well over a million people walking across the London Bridge, right? I mean, who would have ever thought that a movement that a kid started 10 years ago that primarily focused on youth in the United States of America and making sure that they weren’t indoctrinated is as powerful as it’s become and his tribute is incredibly fitting and his legacy will go on for years and years and years to come. Eric.

(Speaker 4)
I consider you to be one of America’s business leaders. I know Pastor Jackson and many people turn to your church, Sheridan . Church, to learn about the Bible and to what God has to say about current events. What’s your reaction to the passing, again, of Charlie Kirk, sir? Yeah, you know, America lost a legend and the body of Christ lost an ambassador to an entire generation. You’ve got a wife that lost a husband and two kids who lost a father.

(Speaker 4)
And many of us, we lost a friend.

(Speaker 2)
But Charlie Kirk gained his eternal reward. And he heard the words that all of us want to hear, well done. my good and faithful servant. ” And Charlie’s more alive today than any of us actually are. And so we rejoice for him, but obviously we mourn for his family, the Turning Point family. And to Eric’s point, I think the enemy overplayed his hand.

(Speaker 2)
This has sparked, you know, they’re calling it the Charlie Kirk effect. Churches are jam -packed this Sunday. You see his social media presence.

(Speaker 1)
He has gained millions and millions of followers. in his death. And so, you know, they tried to take his voice out, but all they’ve done is amplify his voice, not just in America, but around the world. And, you know, it’s one of those things you could say, Charlie was like the youth pastor to the United States of America. He was guiding so many college age students and teenagers and even kids younger than that. And so it’s one of those things that we have to carry the baton that Charlie has passed off.

(Speaker 1)
We got to run our race, not back down in fear or cowardice, but to continue to speak up, stand up, and push the agenda that Charlie was pushing, which was Jesus Christ is Lord and America is a great nation. And so we’re going to continue to do that. Eric, I want to shift gears a little bit. Your book, Under Siege, the title, Under Siege, I know you and I have had many conversations about the book and I’ve had a pleasure to read it before it’s been released to the public. Let’s kind of go through some of these moments.

(Speaker 1)
I mean, your father’s assassination attempt. We’re talking about Charlie Kirk’s assassination. It’s terrible. Do you remember what was going through your mind when you and your wife found or saw on TV that there was an assassination attempt actively happening against your father? Yeah. Well, Clay, if we can, I mean, let me back up.

(Speaker 1)
I actually named the book Under Siege before Butler even happened. And it’s because you and I have talked about it a million times, and I talked about it at all the reawakened events. In fact, I was living it during the reawakened events that you and I and all of us and the pastor did all across the country. But first, it was the impeachments, and then it was the silencing. It was the gag orders. It was stripping our social media voice.

(Speaker 1)
It was trying to take away my father’s First Amendment right, trying to take away our First Amendment right. It was going after our company savagely. It was trying to bankrupt our company. It was trying to debank, deplatform our company, as I was having every financial institution in the country, for doing nothing wrong, strip us of bank accounts. And then it was a Russia hoax, as you remember so well, the Russia, Russia, Russia. Then it was the multiple impeachments.

(Speaker 1)
Then they went after Kavanaugh. You know, then they took Letitia James and Alvin Bragg and Fannie Willis, and they weaponized prosecutors all across the country. I got 112 subpoenas, and I couldn’t help but think, under siege. We are literally under siege. And then sure enough, you know, fast forward all of this, they raid Mar -a -Lago, they weaponize the DOJ, they weaponize the FBI. We all know what the media did the entire time.

(Speaker 1)
You had, you know, reporters who were getting Pulitzer Prizes for writing about hoax stories. Um, you know, and fast forward, you know, I’m sitting there with my Children watching, you know, the rally at Butler. Um, when I hear those gunshots go off, and I know that sound very, very well, and it was by the grace of God that my father didn’t die that day. You know, so many powerful things happened that day, which, you know, you have to attribute to having somebody protecting him from above. But I mean, look at the flag that folded up like a perfect angel right above my father’s head, you know, that day.

(Speaker 1)
Look at the story from Corey’s wife, who told me, front row, when we returned to Butler, that all that Corey kept on telling her before he died that day was that Donald Trump was going to call him up on stage. He’s going to call me up. And the wife said, what are you talking about? He’s not going to call you up. You’ve never met him.

(Speaker 2)
He’s not going to call you up. No, he’s going to call me up on stage. You watch. I’m going to be on the stage with that man in front of the whole country. And then sure enough, fast forward a couple of weeks to the RNC, where Corey’s firefighter uniform was sitting there with the lights on it. And Corey was literally on that stage with my father.

(Speaker 2)
One of the Secret Service agents on that stage, who I know very, very well, wrote something called The Protector’s Prayer. And he talks about the very final line of The Protector’s Prayer is, protect the man to my left and the woman to my right. Well, if you look at him on that stage, who was to the left, one of the other Secret Service agents, and the woman to his right was the female that was shielding my father in front of the crowd. Somebody was looking down that day. There’s no question about it. There’s no question that God spared his life.

(Speaker 2)
And hey, listen, another half of an inch and it would have all been over. It just would have been over. It would have been catastrophic. And God wasn’t going to let that happen that day. I was on the phone with you shortly before that assassination attempt. And I just remember you said, got to go.

(Speaker 2)
And I didn’t know you had to go to deal with an assassination attempt on your father. I just knew you had to go.

(Speaker 1)
And that was very uncommon. You’ve never told me in our conversation. on the phone, gotta go. And my wife sends me a text, and she said, honey, do you know what’s happening? And I said, no. And so James was in my white van, my legendary white van.

(Speaker 1)
He’s in the white van with me, and he said, what’s going on? I said, I can’t even talk. I just pulled over, and we just began praying for your father at that time. And you talk about these events that are very real right now. You’ve been under siege perpetually running this Trump organization since 2016, essentially. So what, 2016?

(Speaker 1)
Now we’re in 2025. What, nine years you’ve been running a company while under siege? Am I getting the dates wrong, Eric? I think you’ve been running the Trump organization for nine years while under siege? Yeah, and maybe even a little bit longer. But listen, I never thought our family, Clay, and you know this, we’re good, honest people, believe in God, work very hard.

(Speaker 1)
Never approach any line, have a great organization, have tens of thousands of employees around the world, put our heart and soul into absolutely everything we do. No drugs, no drinking, no nonsense, no laptops from hell. And yet it’s really interesting that I got 112 subpoenas, you know, and I mean, out of nowhere, they wanted to take us down. They wanted to break apart our family. They wanted to break apart my father’s relationship with Melania. They wanted to break apart my relationship with my siblings.

(Speaker 1)
They wanted to divide and conquer us, and they couldn’t. They wanted to bankrupt us. They couldn’t. They wanted to take the name off of all our assets. They wanted to make sure the Trump name didn’t stand on buildings around, you know, New York and around the world. They tried to do that with crooked judges.

(Speaker 1)
And guess what? They couldn’t. They tried everything they could to throw my father out of office. They laughed at him. They made fun of him. Then they started attacking him.

(Speaker 1)
They did everything they could. And then you know what they did? When none of that was working, they started silencing him. They put gag orders on him in all the court cases. They took his mug shots. They took him off of Twitter.

(Speaker 1)
They took him off of Facebook. They took him off of Instagram. They turned down the dials. You know this. You saw it to me. I mean, how is it in the world that, you know, I become one of the more recognizable people and yet I didn’t grow a single Instagram follower for an eight -year period of time. All the years that my father was in office, out of office.

(Speaker 1)
I mean, it didn’t make any sense. And literally, I couldn’t. And you told me this once. In fact, I remember a text message from you, Clay, saying, I went to search for your name on Instagram, and I couldn’t find you. Parody accounts popped up. But I typed in Eric.

(Speaker 1)
I typed in E -R -I -C -T -R -U -M. And it wasn’t until I typed in the M, did your actual verified account with millions of people pop up. But when I type in E -R -I -C, all of a sudden you had a bunch of Eric Trump parody accounts come up. And so this is what we’re up against. This is the war we are up against. And that’s what I, when I started writing Under Siege, I was talking about that.

(Speaker 1)
And I said something on Fox News that I got criticized for. I said, you know what, Sean? I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to inflict bodily harm. They’ve tried everything they could to destroy my family, and they haven’t been able to succeed. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to hurt him. And that was about six weeks.

(Speaker 1)
I said that about six weeks before Butler. And sure enough, Butler rolls around. They tried to kill him there. They tried to kill him again at the golf course. And the name Under Siege from my book became even more fitting. And I go into a lot of depth on all of these.

(Speaker 1)
I’m pissed off. I’m pissed off about Butler. The fact that a guy with, I’m a competitive rifle guy, right? It’s what I’ve done my entire life. The fact that with modern optics, somebody could get on a roof at 130 yards away and take a shot at a former president is beyond me. I’m pissed off about it. I’m pissed off about what happened at the golf course in Florida and how that whole thing went down.

(Speaker 1)
You know, Clay, I’m upset. I mean, the guys had to fight for his life every single day.

(Speaker 40)
And by the grace of God, that’s the only thing that has protected him.

(Speaker 1)
And I go into all of those stories. And, you know, my father shown a lot of grace when he says, listen, I’m satisfied with the answers to the Butler shooter. And it’s one time as an adult, I respectfully disagree. I’m not satisfied.

(Speaker 2)
I’m not satisfied. They broke into every January 6 protesters phone, right? Every mom that went through, you know, the Capitol and took a selfie, you know, in the rotunda. They got into all their phones and they destroyed their life, yet we know nothing about the guy that tried to shoot my father from 130 yards away. You know, a guy who was cremated and buried about 15 minutes after he took those shots. Give me a break.

(Speaker 2)
I’m not satisfied.

(Speaker 1)
This country is not satisfied.

(Speaker 34)
We ought to know who the hell these people are.

(Speaker 1)
But, you know, I think the media gave greater airtime to Chris Rock after getting hit by Will Smith than they probably did my father’s first assassination attempt because they wanted to do anything they could to change that narrative because they realized it didn’t help them whatsoever. And so those are the stories I talk about under Siege. It’s raw. It just went to number one on Amazon, which I’m so proud of. As I said in the intro, we’re now ahead of Kamala, and I’m thrilled that we are. And, you know, the New York Times is going to do everything they can to hold back the stories because it’s raw, it’s unfiltered, it’s un -PC, and it talks about exactly who the media, who the government is in this country, and what they’ll try and do to destroy a good family who’s out there to try and save a nation.

(Speaker 1)
And it’s been one of the most kind of rewarding endeavors in my life. Now, Eric, what I’m going to do here, we’re going to shift gears. We’re going to go into rapid fire. So this is like rapid fire hot seat, Under Siege Hot Seat Edition. So it’s 10 questions in 15 minutes. So question number one, in the book Under Siege, you talk about what it was like to be raised by your father.

(Speaker 1)
And I don’t want to steal any thunder from the book, but it is a page turner. For anybody out there who’s a dad and you want to mentor your kids to grow up to be productive adults, can you give our listeners a little sneak peek about what talk about in terms of being raised by your father? Yeah. They didn’t put up with games. We were forced to work our asses off.

(Speaker 1)
I know probably more about the construction trades than most people who are in contracting, because I grew up running conduit and doing electrical work and concrete work. And at the same time, they forced school into us. They gave us zero free time. If we wanted something, congratulations, go get a job. Go earn it. So we were spoiled and we lived in the top of Trump Tower at the same time.

(Speaker 1)
I was on construction sites from the age of 11.

(Speaker 2)
But he always beat into me and I’ve told you this story a bunch of times, you know, no drinking, no drugs, no smoking. Every single morning before going to school, no drinking, no drugs, no smoking. And then half the time he’d say, never trust anyone. Eric, never trust anyone.

(Speaker 39)
People are coming to get you.

(Speaker 2)
And so, no, listen, my mom was tough as hell. I go into her a lot.

(Speaker 28)
You know, communist Czechoslovakia, tough as hell.

(Speaker 2)
And my father, he expected us to perform. He expected us to be good kids. He expected us to have great manners. And he expected us to work our asses off.

(Speaker 1)
And there were no free rides. We wanted a bike. Congratulations. Go work for it. Now, Jackson, I’m going to let you ask the next question here. But I want to insert this question first.

(Speaker 1)
And it reminds me of you. But Jackson, from the pulpit, he often talks about how if you want to become successful, you’re going to have to, what, carry water? Is it? Chop wood, carry water. Chop wood, carry water. Get the base.

(Speaker 1)
He talks about this from the pulpit. Hey, if you want to be so successful, be willing to do the work. Eric, in your book, you talk a little bit about your father bringing you to the work site, to the workplace on construction sites, I believe, before the age of 14. Could you tell the listeners a little bit about that? Every summer, starting at 11, every single summer. Chainsaws, backhoes, sledgehammers in your hand.

(Speaker 1)
Tile work, marble work, concrete work, I spent the summer cutting rebar with an acetylene torch. You name it, if you could do it with your hands, I did it, it was most rewarding. lesson. Now, when I have a contractor bid on something, and they tell me a job is going to cost $25 ,000, and I’ve done it myself, and I realize it’s actually not that hard because, again, you know what goes into it. It gives you a little bit of credibility. Now, he brought me to those construction sites.

(Speaker 1)
My most valuable lessons were trailing him on construction sites. There’s no one better at construction. Listen, if you’re good at something, you’re going to be successful at it. If you’re not good at it, you’re just not going to be successful at it.

(Speaker 2)
I’ve never understood why so many parents shield their kids from the very things that they want their kids to ultimately be good at, thinking that they can just hop into an executive’s office one day and run a great organization. That was never. We started at the bottom. I mean, we started at the absolute bottom. I remember there’s an old stonemason named Frank.

(Speaker 1)
I talk about him a little bit in the book. But if you wore gloves, he would absolutely ridicule you. I mean, there were no gloves. At the end of your thing, he would pour olive oil. like extra virgin olive oil, because olive oil to this guy was like the cure for everything. But like, he and his guys would literally make fun of you and call pastor, I couldn’t use the words that they would call you, right?

(Speaker 1)
Because you’re a man of faith. But they would ridicule you if you if you even thought to wear work gloves, because you know, you weren’t you weren’t tough enough, you didn’t have enough testosterone. And you know, these guys hands were just calloused. And those are the guys I grew up working for. And, you know, many of those same guys work with us today. Pastor Jackson.

(Speaker 1)
Yeah, so fast forward to 2015. I know that your father gathered the family, essentially. What was that process like of, you know, because President Trump had kind of teetered with in the past, maybe I’ll run, maybe I won’t run. But in 2015, how did that process of finally making the decision to jump into running for president, how did that take place? Never forget, I was at my desk, 25th floor of Trump Tower, when we were fully based in New York now. I’m based in Florida.

(Speaker 1)
And my phone rings, and it was him. And hey, call the kids. Donny Bonk and I worked in a straight line. Our offices were all next to each other at the very end, as we’d matured into kind of executives in the company. Bring the kids upstairs. And so we went upstairs, and my father called a Melania, and he goes, kids, I’m going to do this.

(Speaker 1)
We knew exactly what he was talking about. And he goes, in a second, he goes, I’m going to do this. And he said, let’s do this. Everything we had ever done, we had done as a family, everything. You know, whether it’s real estate, it was the hotels, the golf courses, commercial buildings, residential buildings. But then, obviously, The Apprentice together.

(Speaker 1)
And I’ve told this story at a couple of the Reawaken events with Clay. I mean, he calls me one day. I’m literally heading home. And he goes, honey, I need you to go on Megyn Kelly. I’m like, God, I just want to go home. And I want to just get a meal.

(Speaker 1)
I want to get some sleep. I’m exhausted. And I go, what do you want me to go on Megyn Kelly about? And he goes, I need you to defend me.

(Speaker 2)
She’s going to kill me on immigration tonight. I know it’s going to be 15 talking heads against me. I just need somebody to go. And so I go down. I’m on Megyn Kelly. And they had a bunch of illegal immigrants in all these little boxes. And I’m in the middle.

(Speaker 2)
And I said to my father, I go, listen, I’m really good at building hotels, really good at the golf game, really good at operations, real estate. I don’t know a freaking thing about illegal immigration, right? But that’s what we were working with. I mean, I always told Clay, like when we got to Iowa, I mean, I didn’t know what a caucus was. I mean, you generally know what a caucus is, but you truly don’t know the details of showing up and how the caucus system truly works. I mean, we didn’t understand how the delegate system worked in this country.

(Speaker 2)
We kept on winning all these swing states, and then we were wondering why we weren’t actually winning the delegate count, because we weren’t whining and dining the people. And it was just, it was funny, but, you know, We did it together as a family. When he said, let’s do it, we got up there on that stage, the same stage that Charlie was on the other day, where it was simple microphone in crowds of hundreds, if not thousands of people, shouting into a bullhorn, standing on a tractor, and speaking from the heart. And it’s the only way that we were able to beat Hillary Clinton, who is one of the great political dynasties in history. Now, Eric, what I want to do, I’m going to shift gears here again for any of the listeners watching right now. We’re going to move into action mode here.

(Speaker 2)
So for anybody out there, if you say, I would like to go to Mar -a -Lago. Now, Jackson, you know this just in, they raided Mar -a -Lago. You know about this just in. And so some people say, you know, that wasn’t cool. I didn’t like that. So a lot of people out there, we want to kind of stick it to The New York Times.

(Speaker 2)
We want Eric to become the number one best -selling author in America. And we kind of also want to go to Mar -a -Lago and check it out. We’ve never been there before.

(Speaker 1)
So what we’re going to do is for anybody right now, if you go to Amazon, right now and you buy a copy of Eric Trump’s book, Under Siege, My Family’s Fight to Save Our Nation. So you go to Amazon right now, you buy a copy of the book. and you just text a screenshot of your proof of purchase to my cell phone number, 918 -851 -0102. So text my number, 918 -851 -0102. So again, step one, you go here to amazon . com, you buy a copy of the book Under Siege, then you just text a screenshot of your purchase, your proof of purchase.

(Speaker 1)
You text my number, 918 -851 -0102. You have a chance to win a dinner at Mar -a -Lago with Eric Trump and myself, and there’s more, and there’s more. You see Nehemiah, Pastor Jackson, Nehemiah was in the Bible, famous character, and he had to build while fighting, fight while building. And that’s kind of what we’re like as American business owners today. So Eric Trump and I, we’ve teamed up together to do a series of business conferences. Our next one’s going to be in Anaheim, California.

(Speaker 1)
That’s going to be December 4th and 5th. And so again, if you buy a copy of the book, one, you’re getting a great book, two, you text a proof of purchase to my cell phone number, 918 -851 -0102. You have a chance to win dinner with Eric Trump and myself at Mar -a -Lago, and you have a chance to win a backstage pass to the in -person two -day interactive business growth workshop. And so, Eric, I want to get your thoughts on this business. How much has the Trump organization grown approximately since you’ve taken over running the operations of it, what, eight, nine years ago? Yeah, listen, we’ve had an amazing trajectory.

(Speaker 1)
We’ve got the greatest, and by the way, Mar -a -Lago right there, just for your viewers, it’s the most exclusive private club in the world. $2 million to get into, just base membership fee. And I promise we’re going to make your night absolutely incredible. The play goes, listen, why don’t we do this? Why don’t we put it out to all the amazing Reawaken people, all the people who supported us all around the country, all around, at every one of these conferences, who adore your family. You know, we’ve got to beat the New York Times.

(Speaker 1)
The New York Times is going to do everything they can. Even though we’re number one on Amazon right now, we just hit number one this morning, New York Times is going to do everything they can to keep you from being number one bestseller. You know that. I know that. You know the games that they’re willing to play. But play goes on.

(Speaker 1)
We do a couple of things. First of all, I love having dinner with Clay. He’s the greatest. Second of all, why don’t we bring one of the amazing people that I guarantee you I’ve been in front of at all these events. Why don’t we bring a couple to dinner at Mar -a -Lago?” And I said, absolutely, consider it done.

(Speaker 1)
So I said, they have to text you, Clay. They can’t text me, because we’ll be getting 1 ,000 of these. But yeah, go buy a book, text Clay, and we’ll set up a dinner.

(Speaker 2)
I’ll make sure you guys have the absolute time of your life. Listen, we’ve got one of the great hospitality companies anywhere in the world, and we’ve got the greatest assets. We’re building projects. Obviously, our bread and butter is the United States, but we’ve got projects all over Europe, the Middle East. We’re international hospitality.

(Speaker 5)
We have the best golf course in the world, the best hotels in the world, some of the best commercial and residential buildings in the world.

(Speaker 2)
Tens of thousands of employees, and it’s been amazing. And really, more recently, the crypto space play. I think you know what I’m doing with American Bitcoin, a company I founded. You know we’re doing with World Liberty Financial, which is another company, but we we got into the crypto space when we start getting debanked by every financial institution out there. We got into the crypto space and there’s no more dynamic, faster growing space.

(Speaker 2)
And it’s been unbelievable. It’s absolutely been unbelievable. So between One of the biggest portfolio of real estate projects in the world, between obviously everything that I’m doing on the crypto front, writing a book, taking care of two beautiful kids, having an amazing wife, Laura, who’s absolutely killing it on Fox News and winning every weekend, and about 1 ,000 other things. We’re busy, to say the least, over on this side of the camera. I want to pull this up again one more time here, Jackson. I think sometimes I’m a poor communicator, and I need to work on communicating more effectively.

(Speaker 2)
So you go to Amazon. That’s step one, OK? You buy a copy of the book, Pop Quiz.

(Speaker 1)
What book? Under Siege.

(Speaker 2)
You buy a copy of Under Siege, and then you screenshot a picture of that, and you text my phone number. It’s 918 -851 -0102. Folks, that is my cell phone number. So we’ll keep that private between you and me and everybody. And then when you text that to me, you have a chance to win a backstage pass to the actual in -person business workshop. That’s a business growth workshop, December 4th and 5th, featuring Eric Trump in Anaheim, California.

(Speaker 38)
and you have a chance to win dinner with Eric Trump and myself at Mar -a -Lago.

(Speaker 1)
Now, someone says, when does this contest end? Now, Eric, your birthday was hijacked. OK, so your birthday was hijacked. January 6th is this man’s birthday. He now has to switch his birthday, because no one wants to talk about his birthday on January 6th anymore. So we’re going to run this promotion until November 5th.

(Speaker 1)
That’s like a birthday. No, no, Clay. Clay, it has to be pre -sale. It has to be between October 14th. That’s why we’re clarifying. So between now and October 14th.

(Speaker 1)
Eric, what’s it like? to have your birthday hijacked to where where no one ever talks about your birthday. I mean, are you celebrating on January 5th now or the 7th or what’s what’s been your move? All right. Can I tell you kind of an interesting like behind the scenes story of of the Trump family? So so everybody in the Trump family somehow managed to have their birthdays on on holidays are pretty damn close.

(Speaker 1)
My father’s flagged down. Dawn is New Year’s Eve. Ivanka is like Halloween Eve. Right. I never had it. I had I had January 6, which is Three Kings Day.

(Speaker 1)
So, Pastor, that means that means something to you. But most people wouldn’t know what what what three, you know, especially because it’s more of a kind of European tradition.

(Speaker 2)
And so I always used to go around Three Kings Day. I’m on Three Kings Day. And everybody looked at me like I had, you know, 12 eyes. And then sure enough the insurrection comes and so now I’m an insurrection baby. So everybody knows January 6th So I’m finally on my finally on my holiday, but now guys joking aside. It’s my birthday was definitely hijacked I’ll never forget there being in Washington that day and I just go up on stage and there was a million people who sang me You know at first they sang God bless America and then you had about a million people that sang me happy birthday and all prompted by the great Laura Trump and it was a There’s a lot of love in that crowd that day, to say the least.

(Speaker 2)
And, you know, it’s obviously, you know, the aftermath of what happened is unthinkable. How many people were savagely, their lives destroyed because they loved America. It’s absolutely unthinkable, but it’s all part of the siege. January 6th, you better believe was part of the siege. Let’s take an entire FBI, let’s weaponize it to go after people who love God, Love Make America Great Again, love the American flag. You know, ever searched for the Bible online, ever searched for Trump online, ever stayed at a Trump hotel.

(Speaker 2)
They put us under siege. It wasn’t just my father. It wasn’t just our family. It was an entire movement of people who adored this country and wanted to see the best for this country. And it’s a big part of what I wrote about in amazing detail. Now, folks, let me just clarify this real quick here.

(Speaker 2)
So make sure I’m leaving you with some good clarity here. One, you buy a copy of Under Siege on Amazon. That’s the step one.

(Speaker 1)
Step two, you text a screenshot of that purchase to my cell phone number. 918 -851 -0102. Three, you have to do that before October 14th. Before October 14th, this just in, it has to be before October 14th. And you have a chance to win a backstage pass to the upcoming business workshop. You have a chance to have dinner with Eric Trump at Mar -a -Lago.

(Speaker 1)
And I want to tell you some benefits of buying the book. One, I’ve read the book. It’s incredible. If you’re a father out there and you want to learn about mentoring your kids, it’s a great book. If you want to learn about American history, it’s a great book. If you want to make America great again, it is a great book.

(Speaker 1)
It’s a book you got to have. Also, Eric, a final question here for you. You are donating a portion of the proceeds to support Charlie Kirk in his continued mission there. Could you tell us about that briefly there? And then we’ll let you get back to what you’re doing today, sir. Yeah.

(Speaker 1)
Well, I was on with Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson was a great friend of Charlie Kirk’s, as you know. And you know Benny. And Benny’s a very good friend of mine. And you know, Cash Patel is a very good friend of mine and was a very good friend of Charlie’s. I mean, we’re very close.

(Speaker 1)
You watch everybody else up on that stage every single day as they got to the bottom of exactly what happened, and they brought justice to what happened, or are trying to bring justice to what happened. And it’s kind of unthinkable. But you know St. Jude, and I talk a lot about St. Jude in this book, because fighting pediatric cancer has always been a cornerstone of my life. But Charlie truly, truly, truly was the epitome of being under siege, not only in the movement that he helped create, but obviously in how his life was savagely taken. My book came out three days, two and a half days before Charlie’s assassination. You better believe he would have been the final chapter of this book as just another illustration of what these people will do at any cost.

(Speaker 1)
to try and win, because it’s who they are. It’s the not -so -tolerant left. And we can never let our voices be extinguished, Clay. You stood on that stage, as well as anybody I’ve ever seen stand on a stage. You did at Reawaken events all across the country, which you funded out of your own pocket. pocket because you believed in America.

(Speaker 1)
You believed in a greater country. And you were on that stage every single day. You know I was on that stage with you every single day. And I was on the Turning Point stage with Charlie all the time. And I was on stages across the country in three campaigns. I’ve stood on thousands of them.

(Speaker 1)
And honestly, they don’t want us to stand on that stage.

(Speaker 2)
That’s why they’re sending bullets from rooftops. They don’t want us to go out there with a bullhorn and have loud, independent thought. When they see these beautiful arenas full of kids and they’re cheering, they’re celebrating, they’re holding American flags, they don’t want that. And so they want to silence us. They want to silence our voice. That’s why they killed Charlie.

(Speaker 2)
That’s why they tried to kill my father. That’s why they sent 112 subpoenas to me.

(Speaker 1)
That’s why they wanted me in jail and my father in jail and Don in jail.

(Speaker 9)
That’s why they made up the hoaxes.

(Speaker 4)
They wanted to see us destroyed and gone with no voice, with no money, with no company, with no political aspirations, gone.

(Speaker 12)
And we can’t allow that to happen. And so we need to make sure the turning point continues.

(Speaker 9)
We need to make sure incredible patriots like you continue to spread you know, sensical speech, pro -American values, you know, pro -religious, pro -constitutional values. And that’s why I want to donate the funds to Turning Point. I want to donate, you know, a portion of the funds to Turning Point because we can’t allow, we can’t allow anarchy to win and we can’t allow voices to be deleted. And we need to keep Charlie’s legacy going.

(Speaker 1)
Eric Trump, thank you so much for joining us.

(Speaker 12)
Pastor Jackson, thank you so much for joining us.

(Speaker 37)
Absolutely.

(Speaker 1)
Eric, have a great day. We really do appreciate you.

(Speaker 2)
Everybody go out there and buy that book, Undersea.

(Speaker 18)
Just not too early to buy your Christmas gifts.

(Speaker 2)
And if you have a Democrat in your family, buy them a copy as well. Eric Trump, take care. Thanks, guys. See you later. See you. Clay Clark is here somewhere.

(Speaker 36)
Where’s my buddy Clay?

(Speaker 2)
Klay’s the greatest. I met his goats today. I met his dogs. I met his chickens. I saw his compound. He’s like the greatest guy.

(Speaker 2)
I ran from his goats, his chickens, his dogs. So this guy’s like the greatest marketer you’ve ever seen, right? His entire life, Klay Clark, his entire life is marketing. Okay, Aaron Antis, guess who’s joining us for the December 4th and 5th, 2025 Thrive Time Show Business Growth Workshop. Santa Claus? No, we will not be joined by Santa Claus, but we will be joined by Eric Trump, the son of the 45th and now 47th president of these United States.

(Speaker 2)
And yes, Amanda Grace will be in the place. And yes, Dr. Stella Manuel will be there, so you know it will go well. Yes, we have Mel K in the house.

(Speaker 16)
Pastor Phil and Tammy Hotsenpiller will be hosting this event at their beautiful church right there in sunny Anaheim, California.

(Speaker 2)
Yes, folks, make this a December to remember.

(Speaker 30)
You surprised?

(Speaker 35)
Make this a December to remember and join us at the two -day interactive Business Growth Workshops.

(Speaker 34)
For over 20 years, folks, I’ve been hosting Business Growth Workshops where we’re going to teach you marketing, sales systems, human resources, accounting, social media marketing, branding, sales training, search engine optimization, accounting, workflow development, financial management, all this and more.

(Speaker 33)
How do you get tickets?

(Speaker 19)
Go to thrivetimeshow .

(Speaker 2)
com. Again, how do you get tickets? Go to thrivetimeshow . com. And this just in from our home office, President Donald J. Trump is now the 47th President of these United States as well. promoting from within, marketing, branding, quality control, sales systems, workflow design, workflow mapping, how to build.

(Speaker 2)
I mean, everything that you see, the Trump hotels, the Trump golf courses, all their products, the man who manages Billions of dollars of real estate and thousands of employees is here to teach us how to do it. You are talking about one of the greatest brands on the planet from a business standpoint. I mean, who else has been able to create a brand like the Trump brand? I mean, look at it. And this is the man behind the business for the last pretty much since 2015. He’s been the man behind it so you’re talking we’re into nine going into ten years of him running it and we get to tap into that knowledge.

(Speaker 2)
That’s going to be amazing. Now think about this for a second. Nothing is over until we decide it is. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? German? Forget it, he’s rolling.

(Speaker 2)
It ain’t over now. The lineup continues to grow, and this is how we do our tickets here at the Thrive Time Show. If you want to get a VIP ticket, you can absolutely do it. It’s $500 for a VIP ticket. We’ve always done it that way. Now, if you want to take a general admission ticket, it’s $250 or whatever price you want to pay.

(Speaker 2)
And the reason why I do that and the reason why we do that is because we want to make our events affordable for everybody. I grew up without money. I totally understand what it’s like to be in a tight spot.

(Speaker 25)
So if you want to attend, it’s $250 or whatever price you want to pay.

(Speaker 32)
That’s how I do it.

(Speaker 2)
And it’s $500 for a VIP ticket. have limited seating here with there’s a lot of togetherness and closeness camaraderie so again if you want to get to know for this event, all you have to do is go to thrive timeshow .com, com, go to thrive timeshow . com. When you go to thrive timeshow .

(Speaker 2)
com, you’ll go there, you’ll request a ticket, boom. Or if you want to text me, if you want a little bit faster service, you say, I want you to call me right now.

(Speaker 11)
Just text my number. It’s my cell phone number, my personal cell phone number.

(Speaker 2)
We’ll keep that private between you, between you, me, everybody. We’ll keep that private. And anybody, don’t share that with anybody except for everybody. That’s my private cell phone number. It’s 918 -851 -0102. 918 -851 -0102.

(Speaker 2)
I know we have a lot of Spanish speaking people that attend these conferences. And so to be bilingually sensitive, my cell phone number is 918 -851 -0102. That is not actually bilingual. That’s just saying Juan for a Juan. It’s not the same thing. I think you’re attacking me.

(Speaker 2)
Now, let’s talk about this. Now, what kind of stuff will you learn at the Thrive Time Show Workshop? So Aaron, you’ve been to many of these over the past seven, eight years. So let’s talk about it. I’ll tee up the thing and then you tell me what you’re going to learn here, okay? Okay.

(Speaker 2)
You’re going to learn marketing, marketing and branding. What are we going to learn about marketing and branding? Oh, yeah. We’re going to dive into, you know, so many people say, oh, you know, I got to get my brand known out there like the Trump brand, right? You want to get that brand out there. It’s like, how do I actually make people know what my business is?

(Speaker 2)
and make it a household name. You’re going to learn some intricacies of how you can do that. You’re going to learn sales. So many people struggle to sell something. This just in, your business will go to hell if you can’t sell. So we’re going to teach you sales.

(Speaker 2)
We’re going to teach you search engine optimization, how to come up top in the search engine results. We’re going to teach you how to manage people. Aaron, you have managed, no exaggeration, hundreds of people throughout your career and thousands of contractors. And most people struggle with managing people. Why does everybody have to learn how to manage people? Well, because first of all, people are, you either have great people or you have people who suck.

(Speaker 2)
So it can be a challenge, you know, learning how to work with a large group of people and get everybody pulling in the same direction can be a challenge. But if you have the right systems, you have the right processes and you’re really good at selecting great ones. And we have a process we teach about how to find great people. When you start with the people who have a great attitude, they’re teachable.

(Speaker 31)
they’re driven, all of those things, then you can get those people all pulling in the same direction.

(Speaker 2)
So we’re going to teach you branding, marketing, sales, search engine optimization. We’re going to teach you accounting. We’re going to teach you personal finance, how to manage your finance. We’re going to teach you time management. How do you manage your time? How do you get more done during a typical day?

(Speaker 2)
How do you build an organization if you’re not organized? How do you do organization? How do you build an org chart? Everything that you need to know to start and grow a business will be taught during this two -day interactive business workshop. Now, let me tell you how the format is set up here. And again, folks, this is a two -day interactive 15 -minute workshop.

(Speaker 2)
Think about this, folks. It’s two days. Each day, it starts at 7 a . m. , and it goes until 5 p . m.

(Speaker 2)
So from 7 a . m. to 5 p . m.

(Speaker 30)
, two days.

(Speaker 2)
It’s a two -day interactive workshop. The way we do it is we do a 30 -minute teaching session, and then we break for 15 minutes for a question -and -answer session. So, Aaron, what kind of great stuff happens during that 15 -minute question -and -answer session after every teaching session? I actually think it’s the best part about the workshops because here’s what happens. I’ve been to lots of these things over the years. I’ve paid many thousands of dollars to go to them.

(Speaker 2)
And you go in there and they talk in vague generalities and they’re constantly upselling you for something, trying to get you to buy this thing or that thing or this program or this membership. And you don’t, you leave not getting your very specific questions answered about your business or your employees or what you’re doing on your marketing. And what’s awesome about this is we literally answer every single question. that any person asks. And it’s very specific to what your business is. And what we do is we allow you as the attendee to write your questions on the whiteboard.

(Speaker 2)
And then we literally, as you mentioned, we answer every single question on the whiteboard.

(Speaker 29)
And then we take a 15 -minute break to stretch.

(Speaker 2)
And this is also your opportunity to meet some of the great speakers like Pastor Dave Scarlett. You could meet Mel K. You could meet Amanda Grace. You could meet Dr. Stella Emanuel. You could just grab a coffee. You could find some alone time. You could get lost in the bathroom.

(Speaker 2)
You could try to go and get a photo with one of the speakers. You could try to photobomb a photo where someone else is getting a photo with the speakers. You could go attempt to find your phone, wallet, and your keys. That’s a good idea.

(Speaker 28)
That means you have less than 3 % of our population that’s even self -employed. So you only have 3 out of every 100 people in America that are self -employed to begin with.

(Speaker 2)
And when Inc. Magazine reports that 96 % of businesses fail by default, by default, you have a 1 out of 1 ,000 chance of succeeding in the game of business. But yet the average client that you and I work with We can typically double this.

(Speaker 27)
No hyperbole, no exaggeration.

(Speaker 2)
I have thousands of testimonials to back this up. We have thousands of testimonials to back it up. But when you work with a home builder, when I work with a business owner, we can typically double the size of the company within 24 months. Yeah. And you say double? Yeah, there’s businesses that we have tripled.

(Speaker 2)
There’s businesses we’ve grown 8x.

(Speaker 10)
There’s so many examples you can see at thrivetimeshow . com.

(Speaker 2)
But again, this is the most interactive, best business workshop on the planet. This This is objectively the highest rated and most reviewed business workshop on the planet. Add to that Eric Trump, the man that runs the Trump organization. You say, Clay, I still I’m not going to get a ticket unless you give me more. OK, fine.

(Speaker 1)
We’re going to serve you the same meal both days.

(Speaker 2)
True story. We have we cater in the food and because I keep it simple. I literally bring in the same food both days for lunch. Who’s with me? Let’s go!

(Speaker 26)
It’s an incredible Mexican restaurant.

(Speaker 11)
That’s going to happen.

(Speaker 25)
Someone says, I want more.

(Speaker 2)
This is not enough.

(Speaker 24)
Give me more.

(Speaker 2)
OK. I’m not going to mention their names right now because I’m working on it behind the scenes here. But we just continue to add more and more success stories. So if you’re out there today and you want to change your life, you want to give yourself an incredible gift, You want a life -changing experience. You want to learn how to start and grow a company. Go to Thrivetimeshow .

(Speaker 23)
com.

(Speaker 2)
Go there right now. Thrivetimeshow .

(Speaker 22)
com.

(Speaker 2)
Request a ticket for the two -day interactive event. Again, the event’s going to be on December 4th and 5th in sunny Anaheim, California.

(Speaker 20)
Great weather.

(Speaker 21)
Make this a December to remember.

(Speaker 20)
Eric Trump, the man who leads the Trump Organization.

(Speaker 19)
It’s going to be a blasty blast. There’s no upsells.

(Speaker 18)
Aaron, I could not be more excited about this event. I think it is incredible.

(Speaker 5)
And there’s somebody out there right now, you’re watching and you’re like, but I already signed up for this incredible other program called Smoke Your Way to Thin.

(Speaker 8)
I think that’s going to change your life.

(Speaker 7)
I promise you this will be 10 times better than that.

(Speaker 16)
It’s like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking.

(Speaker 4)
Don’t do the smoke your way to thin conference. That is I’ve tried it. Don’t do it. Yeah. Chain smoking is not a viable. I mean, it is life changing.

(Speaker 16)
It is life changing.

(Speaker 17)
If you become a chain smoker, it is life changing.

(Speaker 16)
Best weight loss program. Right.

(Speaker 8)
Not really. So if you’re looking to have life changing results in a way that won’t cause you to have a stoma. get your tickets at Thrivetimeshow .com. com. Again, that’s Aaron Antis. I’m Clay Clark reminding you and inviting you to come out to the two -day interactive Thrivetimeshow workshop in beautiful Anaheim, California.

(Speaker 17)
I’m Vince Suzuki, also from Sarasota, Florida. He dragged me here.

(Speaker 2)
Yup, was here in 2018 and it changed my business and I built another business and now I’m here to do it again with this business. I’m a brand strategist and it’s been really easy to go to a lot of events like this and just leave really in your head like what to do next.

(Speaker 16)
Already, there’s the strategic, step -by -step, real -life implementation that we can do to our business, and I’m super excited to be here, and very excited that Eric Trump is here, and that is going to be epic. My name is Erica, and it has been amazing being here at the conference. I’m learning so much. Everything is perfect for me. Clay Clark, man, he is one character. That’s a good word for him, character.

Yeah, that is it. He’s good, driven, smart, and I’ve never met a guy who was so hyper all the time. He’s doing so much good. And then I met his mother, and she just says, she just lets him be Clay Clark. I mean, so he’s endorsed by his mother, and he’s doing magnificent work. So it was great meeting you out there and all the people that he surrounds himself with.

Clay Clark starts his days at five o ‘clock in the morning. Oh, it’s incredible. Yeah. He’s he’s like he’s he’s a machine. He’s a machine. But his you know, I could I have probably.

with my company starting at nine o ‘clock. Yes. Hundreds of people showing up at 5 .00 AM in Tulsa, Oklahoma, man. He’s a leader of a leader. He’s fantastic. Yeah, man.

No, he is. He is. And it’s, so it’s, it’s, um, you know, for, for the folks that aren’t familiar with you and by a few and far between, I first came across you. Gosh, probably 15 years ago, or maybe even 20 years ago.

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