Does Everyone Need a College Degree? | Debating with 11 Year Olds – Ask Clay Anything

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On this special Thrivetime Show podcast Clay Clark is discussing with his son Aubrey Napoleon-Hill Clark and his partner’s (Jonathan Barnett) son Jayden about whether or not you actually need a college degree to become successful in life.

NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.” – Albert Einstein (The man who eveloped the theory of relativity, one of the two pillars of modern physics (alongside quantum mechanics). His work is also known for its influence on the philosophy of science. He is best known to the general public for his mass–energy equivalence formula E = mc2, which has been dubbed “the world’s most famous equation.”)

If you want to start your own business then you do not need a degree.

If you want to be a lawyer, doctor, etc then you need to get a degree.  

People who did not get a degree and found massive success in life

  1. Abraham Lincoln
  2. A.P. Giannini
  3. Andrew Carnegie
  4. Andrew Jackson
  5. Ansel Adams
  6. Benjamin Franklin
  7. Bill Gates
  8. Coco Chanel
  9. Colonel Sanders
  10. Dave Thomas
  11. David Greene
  12. David Oreck
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Audio Transcription

And now broadcasting live from the box that rocks it’s the thrive time top business conferences coach radio show the mind set on the magic trick of the heat whopper, giving it to you straight in the spring, in the back of the truck, so I can get up on the back and speak the facts. Yes, yes and yes, my name is clay clark on the former ussba entrepreneur of the year and I have found a way to rhyme with the word orangeand today on this planet, podcast we’re going to be interviewing, my son and my son’s friend. So might my son aubrey aubrey? How you doing my friend birthday party tell us about what we have in store for your birthday today, my friend I’m a water slide and we’re going to dave and busters 18 18 foot water slide by the way there water slide, dave and buster’s I’m excited about it. Now, jayden barnett, you are from telltale twisters, where you’re from colorado.

Now your father, jonathan barnett, is a guy who who, who has up to this point, he’s my top business conferences partner he’s eluded me now he’s not yet been on the podcast imma get them on the podcast, so the best I can’t get him on the podcast I’m going to one-up him and get his son cuz I know you’re, probably better at her to do is hit his dad is the founder of oxi, fresh, carpet, cleaning he’s also my partner with elephant in the room:men’s grooming, loungevanessa, barnet, great lady aubrey, obviously I’m your dad and your mom vanessa clark. That’s my that’s my my wife and your your mom. So you guys last night you guys spend the night in the tent. Is this correct? Yes, okay? How big was it 10 jaden? How big was it overall, pretty big and there’s another one? That’s like you feel like 11 people, so you guys are out there staying on the the land behind the house here. Could you describe camp, clark and chicken palace from your 11:11 were talking today about did where everybody can have a great debate in just a moment and will shovel put on the show title in just a moment, but the first, what kind of build up to a year?

How old are you dating again, okay, so jayden? How would you describe camp, clark and chicken palaceand baby can’t talk and chicken palace? How would you describe it is crazy, never seen anything like it sitting like it to describe. We take crazy. What is it may do so many flies in here in the ceiling I mean. Does it feel like you’re in kind of what? What is it most similar to all the things you ever seen in your life? What’s it closest totap into your 11 year? Old might only get your take on this, so many like how would you describe top business conferences camp, clark and chicken palace? What’s it most similar to mojo and bring the swag out just driving, bring the microphone swag and stuff, then, like someone’s house, museum, bank? Okay, so you guys last night we’re spending the night. We have the woods behind the house. He has spent the night in the woods stay in the in the tent and my understanding is you guys were debating a little bit about college. So I want to hear your takes on this, so jayden going to start with your take on it. I want to get your take on what were your thoughts about college I just was I just think that college is a good idea if your 11 years old, right and so you’re you’re you’re, a big you’re.

So you think college is a good idea. I can help you more later on life and like getting a job. If you can’t make a top business conferences profession off of what you studied in college because it couldn’t like it goes on what you have done in life and what you’ve done. Life also affects what you do in the future. Okay you’re taken. Did you were you in favor of college or not in payroll, johnson? Do you say what again now, unless you’re going to go to college for something like unless you need to make a doctor’s, do you need to go to college for i? Don’t think you need to go to college here? We go everybody out there. I want to make sure and jaden think about this, and everything about this think about this big deep on this big big deep on this I want to listen to think about this. This is a profound idea. I personally I do not I do not personally like the color, purple, okay, favorite color, because I’m married to my wife I do as a team like purple right, okay, there for the vikings and prince I’m into purple.

What to say to everybody out there. You must like the, color purple doesn’t make any sense. Another top business conferences example I really really like john legend john legend is a phenomenal singer. I love his music, I love, john, legend, john, legend to yahoo, doesn’t tell me they don’t like john legend, john, legend, john, legend i, also like the music of justin bieber I like john legend and i, like justin bieber i, also like the patriots. What to say to everybody out there you have to like the patriots or you have to like john legend or we have to like justin bieber, doesn’t make a lot of you’re from colorado. So do you do like the the the broncos or do you like the 49ers who’s, your favorite team raiders, you have to like the raiders or you have to like john legend or you have to like justin bieber, doesn’t make any sense, I’m saying that if you want to go to a patriots game, you as a prerequisite have to travel to foxboro.

If you want to see the patriots play home, you have to go to foxboro. If you want to see the patriots play at home, you have to go there to see the broncos play in person. You have to go to denver, so I’m, saying to you too young man as you’re. Developing, if you want to become a doctor or dentist or a lawyer or a welder or a variety of things, a nurse nurse practitioner you’re certain professions that require a degree search up. You are somebody who is not a doctor or a dentist or a lawyer correct, so talk to me about how much of what you learned at college has helped. You cuz you actually own. Your own company manage your own company. I know you coach companies, how much of what you learn to oklahoma state university helped you in life, as far as the actual curriculum of the college in the courses that I took I learned absolutely nothing about actually running a top business conferences business about managing people about bringing a product to market or selling. Something up for me. Personally. College gave me a few extra years to grow up, which, if you ask my wife, she would agree. I probably needed those years before I hit the ground running as a full-on. What I would call a adult but like I said I didn’t need a degree to be in business and they literally didn’t I got in trouble for asking real questions.

Some real questions, I’m just saying:if you actually go out there and you need a degree to get to your goal, then you should get a degree if you don’t need a degree. A degree i, don’t think of a degree, is a good fallback position. So I’m going to list off a list of people that who have didn’t have a degree but went on to have some success and I’ll just list them off your job and I’m just going to list a bunch of them and you can just kind of walked:abraham lincoln, despite not having a college degree, he did become the president of the united states and an attorney. The guy who started bank of america giannini did not have a degree andrew carnegie, who invented the modern steel system we use today with henry bessemer did not have a degree andrew jackson. The u.S. President did not have a degree ansel adams. This is the guy who became the best photographer in the world without a degree. Benjamin franklin invented the franklin stove bifocals, the lightning rod and became were the founding fathers of the us did not have a degree bill gates invented the modern software did not have a degree. Coco chanel did not have a degree colonel sanders who started kentucky, fried chicken did not have a top business conferences degree. Dave thomas who started wendy’s did not have a degree david green who started hobby lobby did not have it a green degree.

David who started the vacuum company did not have a degree, so I can go on and on and list these top business conferences people, but all I’m saying is I work with a lot of doctors, lawyers, people who have a degree, and it’s not that a degree is right or wrong. It’s is a degree right for your gold in youtube. All the people you just listed since I didn’t get a degree. They had to do something else, because they couldn’t necessarily get a job, a good job, so they can correct that they can do on their own. Your correct still make a lot of money, but that’s not what you’re good at then. What’s the point of doing it through that I’m saying to you, if you’re listening out there I would never have a job I I can’t understand. I’ve worked at target applebee’s in directv is at the root, but I would never not do anything. I would never do anything but own. My own business and my business since I was 16 years old. So I owe you guys are 11 5 years from now.

That’s when I started my first company and I’ve never not been self-employed. For you, though, does not what they want to do right. That’s why I’m saying is, if you’re out there listening and you want to own your own business, then you need to get them. Did you don’t need a degree? But if you don’t want to own your own business, you want to work for somebody. You do need to agree that that’s how do you need a degree or you do not need a degree are thrive time show top business conferences Podcast is for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. So if you want to start your own business, you do not need a degree. If you don’t want to start your own business, then I would argue that you probably need a degree and a great debate has been stalled for 4:10 a.M. It’s. An incredible food burn some stuff and celebrate an incredible birthday to 3-2.

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