Fighting for the Forgotten | Walking Across America One Day at a Time

Show Notes

MMA Fighter Justin Wren and Jeremy Schulz have to decided to fight against bullying. Learn why Jeremy Schulz has decided to walk 1,200 miles to raise awareness for the Fight for the Forgotten.

1) You have walked 1,200 miles so far across America in 112 days for charity. 90% of the people who attempt a walk across America fail from injury or fatigue within the first 400 miles, you are already halfway across America… You started at the Brooklyn Bridge, YOU LITERALLY WALKED HERE from NYC into my the Thrive time studio, you are ending in Redding California on the Sundial Bridge. I hear you decided to sell all your drum sets even as a professional drummer with an online drum school, you sold your car, all your earthly possessions are on your back or in your pack.  Why did you choose to do this walk, and what cause did you choose and why? 

Jeremy’s reason for walking across the country is to help Justin Wren and his charity Fight For The Forgotten – 

  1. FIght For The Forgotten mission
    2. Through Fight for the Forgotten Justin “The Big Pygmy” Wren is fighting to empower those who don’t have a voice – from the forgotten people around the world affected by the water crisis, to the bullied in our own neighborhoods and schools.

Jeremy is from Redding, Ca. and is an expert drummer and started drumming at 9 years old. He moved to Seattle in 1996. He then went on tour with a band and continued playing music. Jeremy started teaching at the Seattle Drum School, where he was a student for the next decade

  1. Seattle Drum School – 
  2. Jeremy’s business – Beats From the Core – 

2) Let’s go back a bit into your early life and history. You were a drum instructor at the prestigious Seattle Drum School of music for a decade. I’ve heard an incredible story of how you started there as a student first and that transformed your life. You grew up being extremely bullied because of Tourette’s and a major stutter. Then the owner of the Seattle Drum School there took you under his wing, mentored you, he believed in you when others were writing you off, he taught you how to read music, and even helped you overcome severe Tourette’s and help you manage a severe stutter through drumming. Can you explain how that all happened? 

3) Okay, so you were an instructor at the Seattle drum school, then you started your own brick and mortar drum school, then you realize if you could take your business online, using the skill set you already possess, you’d be able to travel the world, you could be a digital nomad, you could impact students from all around the world. You’ve been able to live in California, Seattle, Dallas, New York, and even Thailand while supporting yourself through your online drum school. Do you have any advice for how someone listening to this can use the skills they already have to build an online business? (Something like that) 

4) Throughout your walk across America you’ve been facing many challenges. You’ve been rained on for 3 days straight thru the catskill mountains, you’ve had the asphalt collapse on you and you’ve fallen down an estimated 30-40 foot cliff, your tent has been surrounded by coyotes, you’ve had to walk in this Oklahoma heat of 100 degrees. What’s your driving force? I know you speak about the art of self reliance. Being driven by a purpose, expand on that… 

5) I know you’ve been shown generosity by people from all walks of life in this journey, different folks from different strokes… You are a tatted up bald rocker but you’ve been able to see walls come down and connect in a deep way with people who may look or seem completely opposite from you. You’ve learned along the way we all have a common bond, we share more similarities than differences… What is an impactful story or two you’ve heard along the way? This has been an opportunity for you to have real life connections and conversations with people who have experienced bullying… 

  1. Jeremy has a story of a family who lost their child to suicide from bullying
  2. Another powerful story of a Tulsa woman whose son was severely bullied, whose son died of Leukemia at 14, who was the first Oklahoman buried in space when his ashes were sent up in a satellite that orbits the earth every 90 minutes for the next 57 years. He has a memorial at the Tulsa space and flight center. He connected with his mother in a deep way and is supporting FFTF. 

5.) What are you hoping to be accomplished out of your walk? I hear you are collecting bullying stories for a book, but also that you are raising funds to help fund the bully prevention and character development curriculum for Fight For The Forgotten. What is your goal thru this walk? 

MYSTIC STATISTIC – Death Rates Rising for Young, Middle-Aged U.S. Adults 


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NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” – Matthew 5:10 

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Fight For The Forgotten Thrivetime Show Slides

All right. Thrive nation. Today we are broadcasting from the thrive time show two day interactive in person business conferences and uh, what we’re going to be doing here on today’s show was we are going to be interviewing Justin Rin the MMA fighter and and a man by the name of Jeremy Schulz and Jeremy Schulz has decided to walk across the nation yet he’s decided to walk across the United States to raise attention and awareness for an organization called fight for the what’s fight for the we’ll check it out. It’s fight for fight for the and it is an organization that Joe Rogan, the, the podcast host is so fired up about so passionate about that he is actually asked Justin wren, the founder of fight for the to be on his podcast now I believe seven times soon to be an eighth appearance for Justin rents. So check out, fight for the that’s fight for the

Some shows don’t need a celebrity in a writer to introduce the show, but this show down to math eight kids co created by two different women, 13 multimillion dollar businesses. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the thrive time show

Yes, yes, yes man. Yes. Thrive nation is a very special occasion because on today’s show we are doing [inaudible] on

today’s show. We are recording today’s show on the day of a thrive time show conference. And in the studio right now we have a man, we have a man with a plan to walk across America and 112 days for charity and for a specific charity. And so Jeremy Schulz, welcome onto the thrive time show my friend. How are you dude? I’m doing great. Thanks for having me. Hey, you have walked I believe 1200 miles so far. Is that correct? Yup. Yup. Yeah. 1200 miles and 111 days. Now, most people who are walking that far, my understanding is that within about 400 miles, um, the people start to get injured. They have fatigue, they Kinda, uh, quit I guess, or they run out of juice. What has you motivated and what is the charity that you are walking for? Well, uh, is what has me motivated, um, is, uh, those, that, uh, same answer for both is, uh, to raise money and awareness for anti-bullying, for a fight, for the forgotten Justin Robbins Foundation. Now fight for the forgotten. I’d like to know how did you, uh, Justin first connect with Jeremy? How did you, you’re, you’re, you’re an MMA guy. I first heard of you through the Joe Rogan podcast. How did you guys hear, hear, hear about each other? So Jeremy reached out to us through our email. My wife was the one that got the email and was saying, Jeremy, a professional

drummer who has his own professional drum school who even taught at the Seattle Gr the prestigious Seattle drum school for a decade. He wants to walk across America for fight for the forgotten, like he wants a call. And it just blew me away. This guy wants to do this for us. I mean, that’s wild. So our first conversation was supposed to be about 20 minutes scheduled for that. Maybe ended up being an hour over an hour, hour and a half out of nose while we’re on a road trip. So you heard about Justin through, how did you hear about Justin? Now we’ll, uh, obviously through the Joe Rogan show, you know, that’s how you heard about Justin through the Joe Rogan podcast. Yup. Now what’s so cool about this is Joe Rogan, um, has millions and millions of downloads and you know, he’s had big guests on there like Elon Musk. Um, how did Joe Rogan first hear about you? How did that happen?

Well, I was on the ultimate fighter reality TV show. He’s a huge MMA fanatic, so he’s commentated my fights. Um, and then we connected after that and he heard what I was doing, uh, in going to the Congo. And honestly, I think the fans were giving them heads up, but also he just reached out and said, Bro, let’s cover the story. That was back in 2012 or 13 my first time on the show, um, in which is kind of documented the progress and the history since then seven different times going to go back on. And probably September he’s throwing a big charity benefit comedy show in musical acts in December of this year. And we’re just so grateful for him, his partnership, he’s the real deal and it’s given us a platform to share our mission and vision. So it’s been incredible. I want to hear more, Jeremy, about, about your story cause the listeners out there that we need to make sure the listeners know what the fight for forgotten a cause is all about.

I think we need to know your history a little bit. So I’m going to start with you Justin and we’ll flip it over here to, to Jeremy. What is the fight for the forgotten the fight for forgotten fight for the and fight for the What is that charity that cause all about? Yeah, so we are focused in two areas. It’s, it’s, it’s one mission, two initiatives. Um, but we want to defeat hate with love and we want to knock out bullying worldwide. But we are focused on the most bullied people group in the world. Uh, the pygmy people in the Congo basin rainforest, which is in, uh, eastern Congo where we worked since 2011 but we’re in Uganda now, uh, with abattoir pygmies in western Uganda. But then here state side, uh, we have a bully prevention curriculum for own neighborhoods. We’re starting a martial arts academies, but we want, and what Jeremy is supporting is walking across for our heroes and weighting curriculum or bully prevention, character development program.

Um, and we are, yeah, hoping to get that in public and private schools, online schools, um, and just have resources here for kids that are bullied. Wow. Yeah. Jeremy, before you teamed up with, with Justin, you’ve obviously had your own, your own career, could walk us through a, um, what w what was your first job at a high school? What were you doing? Oh, man, first job, uh, you know, let me see, probably, uh, washing cars. I grew up in a small town, right in California. You know? And so I’d like, ah, it’s super hot there. So wash cars, um, and pretty work at a grocery store.

Now. How, what’d you do after that, after you worked at the grocery store, Washington cars? Tell us about your career. Okay. Well, uh, you know, I, I bailed up, I, uh, put my drums in the back of my truck, bailed up to Seattle, um, right around 1996. Yeah. And, um, uh, I went up there with, uh, one purpose only that is, uh, to, to, you know, in my career, I started playing drums at nine years old. So I went up there. All My, there was in the 90s. Right. You know, it’s all my heroes were up there. And, uh, I got an a in a, in a touring band and I’m a pretty good, I mean, you know, um, I, you know, yes. [inaudible]

will you do a drum solo on our drum set for the conference attendees before you leave? Would you do that? I don’t know. Oh, let’s see. Okay. You should not, one thing I want to just speak up on story is a, is pretty incredible. Um, share a little bit about like the struggle you had maybe grown up getting bullied. [inaudible] roaming. The reason how I even started playing drums, you know, was, um, was, uh, I, uh, my whole life I’ve dealt with Tourette and stuttering. Right. You know, so, uh, and it was very, it was very, very extreme. I still, I still battle with it, but it’s, you know, very controlled right now. But, um, my mom got me a drum set when I was nine and I, I used to, I would come home from school, um, uh, I couldn’t really have conversations, you know, cause I’d be like [inaudible] stuttering and kicking the back of my feet and my head twitching and stuff.

So I would sit behind my, my drums and I would pretend like a, the snare drum was, was my, um, uh, you know what, like I was on the snare drum, the toms were, were, you know, the, the toms were up other people and we’d have, I’d just have like, pretend conversations like, hey, how you doing? Blah. And that, that was that way for years. And then by the time I got to high school, um, it was, it was like, uh, by the time I got to high school, that’s when I found out the girls, like guys in bands. And so I started taking music serious, you know, uh, and then I got into that. And then so like I said, I got up to Seattle. Um, and uh, you know, I, I couldn’t figure out how to make, make money. Um, being in the music business, I have a question for him.

Yeah. Um, I stuttered a lot till I was 13. Yeah. And I think that pretty much the vast majority of people were unbelievably mean to me. And, um, that’s why Justin story connect connected with me so much. Um, did you, were people mean to you because of your stuttering and your Tourette’s, where they mean or how, how are you treated? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. You know, that, that’s, that’s why I, the whole bullying. I mean, imagine, you know, 80s and 90s, I had a, you know, hair halfway down my back, you know, as long as Justin’s and two earrings and was twitchy. And, you know, special Ed, um, you know, that was before Internet obviously. Right. You know, so people didn’t know how to deal with it. And, uh, um, the, you know, I remember when I was in high school, uh, I had, uh, in my senior year, I was 19 because I had straight AFS.

Uh, and the, my, my high school teacher or the principal was like, Yo man, you’re still gonna graduate cause we’re not going to have a 20 year old senior here, like not gonna happen. Right. So, um, yeah. You know, so it was more of like a, I was never, I was never, uh, given a chance. Right. You know, it was just like Kinda, they bat back then they just kind of swept it under the rug or wrote you off. Yeah. The owner of the Seattle drum school, my understanding is that he, um, took an interest in you and decided to pick you under his wing and, and mentor you. Uh, what kind of impact did he have in your life and, and how did you meet him? Yeah. So, uh, he ultimately changed the whole trajectory of, of my life, you know. Um, I was, uh, I was up, I was like in my late twenties, early thirties.

I was already studying at the Seattle John School. And, uh, Steve Smith was like, was like, Yo man, we don’t have any, um, any, uh, rock, any rock and roll guys here. They’re all like, you know, Jazz, Berkeley, Greg dies. And he goes, so you’re going to teach her? And I’m like, and I told him, no, no way, dude. Cause I, you know, I can’t read music and I can’t. And he was the first person that, that told me, uh, to, you know, to um, to uh, start telling myself a different story, get, get past it, right? He’s like, yes, you can. So he mentored me. Fast forward a year or so later, I was able to, uh, chart, you know, um, chart entire albums, entire songs I’m teaching, I, so I taught and then he gave me the job at the drum school and I ended up teaching for a decade there.

And then you started your own brick and mortar drum school too, right? Yeah, I had that for a few years up until a divorce and I moved everything up online. And so now it’s online. Online. Yeah. Yeah. I have, I have online jump school and I do a, I do a Skype and facetime lessons to students all over the world. But, um, the even cooler is I have a teacher training program where I, I train other, um, musicians, uh, primarily drummers on how to be able to do what I do. And, and it’s good because nobody knows how to make a living in the music industry. So like if you’re on tour, if you’re on tour, imagine, you know, charging us 60, 70 bucks an hour and your, uh, you show up to the venue early and you could do four or five drum lessons and you’re making more than anybody else on tour.

So what’s your website for that if people want them? There’s one gotta be listeners out there that have kids in drum lessons. Yeah, my son plays drums. What’s a website we can go to beats from the core, c o r e beats from the core beats from the court. Just like drum beats, beats from the core, the core like drum corps. Oh, good. Good. Okay. Yup. Got It. Okay. Fist, Justin, folks, this just in drum corps, this, Justin, now you’ve been walking across America. I’m sure you’ve had some challenges, maybe, maybe rain. Uh, I don’t know. What kind of weather conditions may be bugs? What’s the biggest adversity you’ve faced thus far? Oh, man. Uh, the biggest adversity, um, you know, is, uh, just the, the, the mental mindset of like, of, of not giving up, you know, um, do like, you know, I, I started at the Brooklyn Bridge, walked up to Niagara Falls, and now I’m here in, um, Oklahoma.

And in that time I’ve literally have, I’ve fallen off of probably 30, 40 foot cliff. Wow. How, this is fun. Okay, well I’ll, I’ll, I’ll give you the, uh, Rick, the family version of [inaudible]. So I was, I was, uh, I was in Pennsylvania and I stepped over a guardrail and you’re going up and down the Catskill mountains and rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go over the guardrail cause well I, I had, I had to pee. Right. So, so, oh wow. Oh this Justin, now we know. Yeah. So I stepped over the guardrail and um, you know, I was only a couple of weeks in so I still wasn’t used to that. My pack load and as on Peon, the um, the uh, blacktop asphalt gave out and then I’ll just, I’ve got an audio of what you, I think you were thinking as you were, as you’re, you’re taking a leak. Yes. And a collapse. This is audio clip. I talked to, uh, Devin earlier and I said, Devin, is this the right audio clip? And he said, probably not, but we need to go with it. So I’m going to cue up to just tell me if this is what this is how you felt or this is what you were saying as you felt that it’s really embarrassing that we would Mike you without your permission. And for it to be exposed, like, okay, let me queue it up here. Here we go. [inaudible]

you fallen down though. Exactly it. Oh Man. That had to hurt. Yeah, man. Well, yeah, you know, luckily, I mean, I, I, I was banged up, but, you know, luckily I didn’t break anything. You know, and I’m so like, I’ve, I’ve fallen down that I’ve, uh, I’ve, um, I got caught, I got caught in a flood that took half of my gear away, almost died on that. The, uh, Ohio river snapped a bridge and, uh, my, my tent was already set up. Um, I got caught in a, in, uh, two different lightning storms. One that hit, hit a tree right in front of me. Um, another one I had to sleep underneath neath of a bridge, you know, in the animals. Yeah. I, I, I was, oh God, dude. Again, in, in, up Pennsylvania, I was, I was walking in these back roads and like, the nearest town was like two days away.

So I had to take my machete and I hacked in a, to the force I set up and I set up. And, um, maybe, uh, maybe about, maybe about three hours into going into sleep, I woke up and there was coyote surrounded my tent signal barking. And how do you do so there’s like a film crew that’s going around with you. You’re just, you’re out there by yourself solo. Yeah, yeah. But I’m posting everyday on my, on my, uh, reality TV where it’s like, oh, we’re going to go walk through the woods and then technically we’re going to sleep in a trailer and now you’re actually out there by herself and into Jeremy’s credit. Most people that do this, that complete it, they have a team of support, uh, Van, a truck, uh, an RV that, a team that’s feeding them, monitoring them, they get to sleep and comfortable conditions. He is out there in the wilderness and sleeping in a tent and he is doing this and it’s, it’s wild. Now we have a lot of, we have a lot of listeners who have flown here from Guam. You know, we’ve had a, we got one guy

coming from Australia. You got Canada, we got, you know, people from, uh, Texas. I mean just all over the, all over the world. And I think you’re the first one to walk here. I was here the, the Brooklyn Bridge. Yeah. Oh, nice. Okay, cool. Very passionate now. Okay, so, so Justin, you guys decided to team up and I would just like for you to share, um, what’s it like to work with this guy? I mean, how, how much does it help impacting what you’re doing and why is he such a valuable asset, I guess, to, to the fight for the forgotten? Well, it’s, it’s raised a ton of awareness for us, uh, from, from news and in New York to here in Oklahoma, being on Fox, uh, OKC and Telemundo and I think tomorrow at least Saturday or Sunday, the Oklahoma’s going to feature on potentially on the front page.

Um, so, so raising awareness has been incredible. He’s also been collecting stories all along the way of people who connect with him. And I think it’s been really cool to watch and hear about, uh, walls coming down. Maybe people see you’re, you’re, you’re a muscled up, tattooed up rocker dude with a big beard now. And so you’ve had these encounters with people and then you’ve seen and had this human connection with them specifically about bullying. I A, I’m going to describe you in the most candid way possible. Okay. And then you can describe what it’s like to be at this conference. We’ll do that. Okay. Okay. Cause when you first walked in, I’m sure you’re thinking, oh oh, or something. I don’t know. I’m sure you thought so you done what you first thought when I saw, and I’ll tell you and I think I look at Jeremy here and some of you need to go online and Google Jeremy Schulz.

That’s s c u l Z. S C H s c h r s. C h. U. L. T. S. C. H. ULC. Um, you have a few tattoos. Do you have, how many tattoos do you have? You have one? Uh, yeah. All, it’s all, no, collectively I got all of this and then the one on my leg. So that’d be to do, do you have any serious, is it like maybe dozens of tattoos? I mean, you connect it all over and you’ve got a big beard. It’s like a, it’s Kinda like you could be Santa Claus if he wanted to be. He does. You got a hat you got on backwards. You look, you look like a drummer, you look like a drummer, um, and you, you of, you got the bald bald look going, but the beard, the bald with a beard. That’s a beautiful look. That’s right. I would do that if I could, but I don’t have, I can’t grow a beard and have a big shaggy from Scooby too.

But that’s kind of how I am I missing something. Does that, the accurate visual description. Now, how would you describe when you walked into the thrive time show conference, what it Kinda looked like to you? Uh, you know, to look like a bunch of, of, uh, business leaders, you know, um, uh, definitely more, definitely more of a conservative crowd, you know. Um, that’s what, that’s what it looked like to me. I mean, you know, uh, I’ve been to business conferences before, so how would you describe the, the Mojo in here? Just because we have a lot of listeners who listen to the shows, but don’t come to the call, haven’t been here. This is my first time to attend and be part of the conference. I get to speak once, but I was in and out. And this is, I love the energy. I love what we’re learning.

I’m eating it up. We need this for us in our nonprofit. But everyone’s so giving in there. Uh, you are serving us so well with all the information you’re sharing and guidance and wisdom. So man, I’ve been blown away. Um, it’s in, we’re only halfway into the first day. Um, so it’s been incredibly valuable to us and, uh, to, yeah, it’s incredibly hands on. It’s a really practice and designed to be practical. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, very practical. Try not to get too, too deep now. Now I want to get deep and it might take it, the show to a weird place. It might take us to a great place or a bad, I don’t know. But I mean, you’ve had to have had some powerful stories, um, that you’ve heard along the way as you’re traveling. A guy who dealt with bullying, you know, as a kid with Tourette’s and stuttering.

Um, Justin, you’ve been on this journey. Can you tell us a Jeremy, uh, what are some of the most impactful stories you’ve heard so far as you’re raising awareness, uh, for this cause? A fight for the forgotten? Well, first of all, you know, um, I knew that this was a big deal. Um, and, uh, one I didn’t, I didn’t anticipate that it was at the magnitude that it is the, this bullying thing, you know, um, you know, uh, one to two that comes, that comes to mind really quick. I’ll just share these really quick. I’ve got dozens, but, um, when I was in Ohio, I sat down, uh, at a coffee shop with the mom and dad of, of a 12 year old girl who, uh, hung herself. And, and you know, when you think that, you know, it’s, um, you know, a lot of people can, you could automatically in your mind think, um, maybe, you know, think like, Oh man, you know, is that bad parenting?

Is that what I mean? They were put together. They were, you know, the, they, they, um, when I was talking about to the dad, he said, do you know that he literally did not know because of how much of the online bullying. So like she never said anything. And so that was really heart wrenching. You know, there’s some tears and some hugs. And then because of the online bullying, yeah. She never said anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, because she, um, you know, uh, you know, she, uh, yeah, she just, she didn’t want it to get worse. So this is interesting. This is an interesting one and not good. Interesting. But this is a thought. Some of you out there listening have kids and um, when you have kids, it’s incumbent upon us as parents to learn from these stories and to realize, I mean, when your kids connected to a smart phone, they’re connected to the world.

I’ve, I mean I’ve seen some of my clients, they have 13 year old kids, 14 year old sons and daughters. They’ll post a picture with the basketball team and then someone will write, I bet you lost because you’re fat on the comments. And I had one of my clients go, how do you handle that? And I was like, you’ve got to get your kids off of their social media. Might my take, this is what it means, this practical. But it was a parent get them off of that thing or monitor that thing like a hawk but or, or both. But it’s just so important because, um, you guys are so proactive about this thing. Justin, what advice would you have for somebody out there who’s, um, you know, dealing with the bullying thing right now, personally, they’re listening right now and somebody who’s bullying their business, saying their business sucks.

You suck or are bullying their kid or what, what advice would you have cause you or do dealt with bullying? Yeah, I did. And uh, in, in like a lot of the kids I would skip school, there’s 108,000 kids who skip school every day because they’re being bullied. Um, and that’s Monday through Friday. That’s 3 million school days a month that are lost. Um, because kids in, in teen, the addiction, depression, suicide is all through the roof. I think it’s the number two reason of death between ages 10 to 14 or something like that. And I will say this, the, the life at Chubb will put on the show notes, but this is the first, the last two years have been the first time in American history that the life expectancy of the average person is going down. Yeah. And it’s because of all these teenagers who are killing themselves and, and brutal people need to know that one.

A lot of these things are lies being spoken of you over you and you don’t have to accept that as truth. And I personally sometimes pray for myself, man, God let me have tough skin, but keep a soft heart and not let the words that people are are saying, you know, penetrate through. But to a parent, especially men, I think yes, you have to monitor it like a hawk or keep it out of their hands until they’re at an appropriate age. 14, 15, 16, maybe even 85. I stay off of that thing because I’m telling you, I own businesses. It’s brutal. We, let me tell you what this is. This is the key to being profitable. If you cut hair for a living, we want to do a good job. This just did from our Home Office. When we are cutting your hair at elephant in the room, we want to do a good job.

My buddy with oxi fresh, the carpet cleaning business, he knows the key to success is doing a great job, right? But a lot of people, when you do it, when you mess up, we all do. Uh, you know, even if you cut, even if you’re, if you’re a great free throw shooter and you shoot the ball, you know, 95% of the time, like, like a Steph curry, people can go online and just rip you in for the one time you missed the shot in the big game or the one time you messed up their haircut or whatever. So I just stay off of that thing entirely because you want to talk about ruining my day. It’s go on social media and read what people are saying about them. Right? It’s gotta put those boundaries out there. Yeah. And I think it’s important for it. Well, one of the reasons Jeremy’s walking across this as our curriculum is based to empower people to put compassion and empathy and action in a way that heroes in waiting basically says we’re all heroes and waiting, able to make a difference.

And so when we see a need, let’s take action and no act of kindness, no matter how small ever goes wasted. And to me, Jeremy’s a hero walking across America for the cause. Connecting with these parents. Even even a parent here from Tulsa. Um, but yet I think kids need to know if, if parents let their child listen to this, um, I would say that be empowered, that your voice matters and that you have a voice. And so bullying specifically when it’s taking place, if you see it happening, if you hear it happening, you’re actually now involved. Even if though you didn’t choose it, you’re presented with a choice to either take action or to do nothing. And what people need to know is that when you stand up and you say something, I believe the statistic is 87 of the time bullying

stops within the first five or 10 seconds. And so you can say something [inaudible] for somebody else on their behalf that it’s something as small as, hey, that’s not kind. Because whenever you’re silent, you, the bully actually takes that as silent support. You’re being a silent supporter. Um, and so you actually are involved even though you didn’t choose it, that chose you and invite people into your circle and like bring them over and sit by you at the lunch table. If, if, if you see someone sitting alone and then, uh, and then, yeah, I think what Jeremy’s doing is great. Like heroes can take small actions, um, and they have humble, humble hearts. They don’t need a Cape supernatural power, superhuman strength. But what, what Jeremy’s doing is something remarkable and it’s bringing a lot of attention to the cause. Even he has a, a huge goal to raise $250,000 on our behalf.

Um, there’s going to be a lot of media whenever we get to, uh, to, to Redding and California, um, a huge crowds going to be walking with us, our, our fight for the forgotten team. At least me and probably Matthew will be there to celebrate with him when he finishes in October, which is national bullying prevention month. So to have that exposure during the month of October in Jeremy, if it’s okay real quick, I do want you to share a little bit about the Tulsa mother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say, uh, one, one, uh, another really incredible, uh, thing that you guys have, uh, this, uh, legend here. So when I, when I walked into Tulsa, I met this, I met this lady named, uh, September Brown, uh, September Brooks Brown and her son, her son was bullied, um, uh, all through high school. And, um, he ended up, um, he ended up not going to school, like got the last, the, you know, the last year of his life.

And then he got diagnosed with leukemia at, uh, 14 and it was the aggressive, unkind, aggressive kind of of leukemia. And he died within six months. And like kids were like, snap, you know, they used to like snap his, his pencil and all of that. Um, and it was his story. His mom gave me a permission to tell his story and it’s pretty heartbreaking because there wasn’t a lot of redemption, you know, he got, he got a, these kids really tormented him. He got sick. He loved, he loved drums and, but he also loved rockets. And so he asked us, uh, the make a wish foundation. He’s like, I want to be an astronaut. And they’re like, well, you know, you’re too sick. So they would give him these rockets and they would launch it off. And so he died. And um, and then his mom’s September, she went and she got him. She, uh, buried him and she got him, uh, cremated and they put him on a rocket and they launched him out into space. And he is the first Oklahoma to be buried in space. And he orbits the Earth every 97 minutes for the next, uh, uh, 57 years. I have a, I have a word of encouragement. I’d like to give the listeners out there that that’s such a powerful story. And I think if you, again, I’m not, I’m not, I don’t want to like really, really make this a show where I’m just forcing my

religious views on you. But maybe this is, maybe this will give you the encouragement you need. Matthew five 10 is a Bible verse that I only think of every day. I only, I only think about this every single day and I only think about it probably every hour, but it says, blessed are those who are persecuted for their righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. So I have to believe that this young man, what, what is his name, Gregory. I have to believe that Gregory, um, is, was persecuted. Remember, righteousness just means being right or, or, or in integrity or, or just or, and so there’s people out there that are being persecuted. You might not see there’s a, a justice in that. But I do believe that that verse rings true because he will be blessed because of his righteousness for here, for, for he, for again, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

So for him, I think he inherits the Kingdom of Heaven. And I just, I, uh, I believe that. And I think if you’re up in space going fast, you’re probably closer to that. And I’m not, yeah, we’re having is exactly, but he’s probably, if anybody wants to see his, his memorial is, it’s at the Museum of flight here in Tulsa. Really? Yup. Okay. Jim Bryden Stein, the head of a NASA used to run that museum and we’ve had him on the show too. Great. He has a, he has a big, um, you know, a big display up there. His mom, uh, I was here in Tulsa and his mom took me to it and yeah, is a fantastic story and all that. And I, I write about his story in depth on my Instagram. Well, we’re, we’re going to do is we have to get back to this conference here and, uh, I want to give you, I’m just in the floor to encourage our listeners.

If the listeners are out there, they just want to take one action step, you know, maybe it can only go to one website or do one thing or, you know what I mean? Cause we got a lot going on, but they’re saying I want to do something. Just one thing. What’s the one thing that you’d like for all of our listeners to do? Well, you could always go to our website, fight for the, but right now I’d like to point people to Jeremy’s um, gofund me. Um, his walk across America for beats from the core, right. The, the go fund me is actually a, uh, beats for a cause beats where cause yeah, absolutely. That’s his charitable side of his drumming business in his drum school. And it’s beats where cause walk across America, walk across America and you can support him. His goal is $250,000.

Um, and yeah, you could give they’re into it. We’ll go to bullying prevention and character development through fight for the forgotten end. I knew he said one action step, but yeah, but if you want to support Jeremy in his walk, there is like a paypal link that you can help buy him a coffee or hotel while he’s, while he’s walking across America instead of sleeping in the tent and he’s going through, I just want to commend you Jeremy, because you are walking through the Catskill mountains, three days of rain and you are in the now the Oklahoma Heat, um, a hundred degrees. And uh, I walked out of my car and there was like this, a little bit of precipitation this morning I got wet. Um, so if you guys don’t want to donate to him, you could support me. I got, I got wet. I went through a little bit of adversity, right? Belle serious. This is crazy what this guy’s doing. If you’re out there listening today and you’re not a knucklehead, say you’re a knucklehead, don’t do this. But if you’re

not a knucklehead, go to go fund me. Look up, look him up there. It’s again, just, just do a Google search for beats for a cause. Walk across America. If you’re not a knucklehead and just do $5, you know you’re going to buy something. You regret it. Taco Bueno or Taco bell or quick trip, they’re going to say, would you like something else? So you’re going to look around scanning going, oh, I probably shouldn’t, but I’ll get a burrito and a coffee and I’ll get la energy shot and let me have some licorice. You know what you’re gonna do. You’re gonna do that. So can we all just agree to forego some regrettable purchases? Just can we just say, okay, I’m not going to supersize my Sunday or my French fries. Maybe we get thinner too, but let’s go ahead and just take this at least two, $5.

Let’s check them out today. Just do a search for beats for a cause. Walk across America, check them out, and guys, we like to end each and every show with a boom, which stands for big, overwhelming optimistic momentum. So if you’re a psychologically prepared, we’ll do a little count down and then we’ll do it. Okay. It’ll be like three, two, one, boom. There we go. Three, two, one. All right, Jason, before we wrap up today’s show, I wanted you, because you are a coach in, in some of your clients or here at the conference, why do you feel like the conferences are so well received and why? What? Why do you put people travel all across America to to attend an interactive two day business conferences? I mean, it’s not normal for people to, it’s not normal behavior. This Justin, for people to be traveling from anywhere to Tulsa, Oklahoma, it’s done.

It’s not a normal thing, but, but people do it on a consistent basis. Why do you think your clients travel to the in person? Thrive time show business conferences, will traveling to any of the conferences for entrepreneurs takes commitment. And so the people who show up are usually the people who are the ones that are willing to implement it. The ones who are willing to give it their all and then to just, you know, go out on a whim and try the system that’s proven. But then also it gives them that tangible sense of reality. Like most people they want. It’s like with a video testimonial you didn’t once real world application and that’s what they’re getting and they get like eight straight hours, two days straight of just nonstop. When I have found it’s really cool is that you’ll have a client, a current client. Yeah. Sitting next to a current client.

Oh I love that. And one client is just starting in the program and one has been in the program for like five years. Right. And there’ll be someone in the middle. I can, but there’s like three seats, somebody at the other end of the aisle. It’s kind of halfway through the program. Oh yeah. And you’re starting to see people go, oh yeah, I had the same issue. [inaudible] let me tell you why I didn’t want to do the group interview, but let me tell you, I’ve been doing it now and let me tell you how it’s impacted me. Right? Or, Hey, I had the same pushback about getting a writing content for my website, but man, let me, let me tell ya how it’s impacted me. I think that’s a, that’s a, that’s a powerful thing when your clients encourage other clients. Um, yesterday we had a Josh with living water.

I love Josh and shared his story. We had Aaron antice with a show homes. Uh, and just so you know, uh, just to give you some context, Josh, with living water has grown a company from basically a startup to, he did $130,000 of sales a couple of weeks ago, averaging like 50,000 a week of sales. Unbelievable. Then we had another guy again, he went from zero to $132,000 of sales in a week. That’s insane. And then he’s averaging about $50,000 a week of sales that’s living water. And that’s Josh living water And then there’s Shaw homes there. You’ve got Aaron antice. He sold over $850 million of new homes throughout his career. That’s not a small amount in $850 million. His company last last year alone, did $64 million of new homes, sales, Shaw He shared his story. Paul Hood with Hood CPAs was, uh, sharing about, uh, the construction of a 25,000 square foot house.

That thing is ridiculous. It’s crazy. Building a castle. It’s unbelievable. And I’m just saying all these people are real clients. We’ve really helped. And it’s just fun when a client gets to WHO’s a startup, gets to talk to a guy who’s sold $64 million of home sales last year. It’s great to have a, uh, a struggling entrepreneur talk to an entrepreneur who’s just winning. I just love that conversation. What else can people learn if they attend the in-person two day business conferences? We’ll, I mean we literally go through the boom book in its entirety so they can learn the whole program in the span of two days. And like you said, you know the one, the main pushback you always get is we tell people you need to get Google reviews. And like Thomas said yesterday, well that doesn’t work in my industry. Networking does what a better place to network than here because you’re not only talking to entrepreneurs, what you’re talking to people who have grown and can show you the proven system that helped them grow.

And just to provide a little bit more context on that, Thomas Crossing owns a company called full package media shouts out to, and Thomas was sharing yesterday about how in his industry, a lot of people say for, for real estate photography, it’s important that real estate photographers invest their time networking as opposed to cold calling realtors. Yup. And he said over time he discovered that it turns out that cold calling realtors is a much better use of time than networking. But attending an event like this is a great way for him to network because the people here actually have a net worth and therefore he can make some connections, whether it be banking, relationships, legal relationships, accounting, relationships are so many successful people all in one place. If you have yet to attend an in person, thrive time, show business conference chicken out today, go to thrive time that’s thrive time Click on the conferences button and see when the next upcoming conference is going to happen.


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