From 17 Arrests in 18 Years to Building the $10 Million Dollar Meal Prep Company of Choice for the New England Patriots’ Rob Gronkowski

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Learn how Chris Cavallini went from 17 arrests before the age of 18 to becoming the founder of multi-million dollar business known as Nutrition Solutions has now become the nutrition provider of choice for the New England Patriots All-Pro tight end Rob Gronkowski, WWE superstars and thousands of meal prep customers all across America.

“Thrive Nation, on today’s show we have an opportunity to interview the CEO and founder of Nutrition Solutions, Chris Cavallini. Nutrition Solutions is a national healthy meal preparation company generating 8 figures annually and is currently dominating in their space. Having helped thousands of everyday people transform their bodies and lives, they’re trusted and utilized by professional athletes and celebrities alike, including Rob Gronkowski of the New England Patriots and dozens of WWE superstars such as Rey Mysterio, Roman Reigns, Jinder Mahal, Finn Balor and Sheamus.”

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  1. Thrive Nation on today’s show we have an opportunity to interview the founder of the $10 million meal-prep company of choice of The England Patriots’ Rob Gronkowski called, Nutrition Solutions. Chris, how are you?
  2. Chris, my understanding is that your path to success was a difficult one and one which involved getting arrested 17 times prior to your 18th birthday. Can you share with us, why you kept getting into trouble as a young man?
  3. Chris, when and why did you decide to join the United States military?
  4. Chris, how did the United States military teach you the values of perseverance and a hard-working mentality?
  5. Chris, when did you first have the idea to start Nutrition Solutions?
  6. Chris, how did you raise the capital to start Nutrition Solutions?
  7. When it came to finding your first office, where did you start?
  8. What were the biggest obstacles you faced when starting this new company?
  9. Chris, how did you go about getting your first 10 customers?
  10. Chris, what was your process for landing Rob Gronkowski as a client?
  11. Chris you were given a second chance and he found success despite your earlier poor decision-making. Can you share with our listeners how you are attempting to pay it forward today and your decision to hire a workforce comprised mostly of convicted felons, homeless people, military veterans and those that have struggled with substance abuse?
  12. If you could go back and coach yourself as a startup entrepreneur, what advice would you give yourself that you wish you would have had earlier?
  13. Chris Cavallini , on a personal level what is the most powerful piece of advice that you’ve ever gotten?
  14. Chris, you a very intentional and purposeful person, I’d love if you would share with the listeners what the first 4 hours of your typical days look like?
    1. Get up at 4:50 a.m., he does not hit the snooze button, he does not want to start the day with a loss.  Honor the commitments that you make with yourself. Getting up early, making your bed, these things correlate to other parts of your life.
    2. Does not grab his phone and go through social media
      1. He starts thinking of what he is grateful for, he thinks about the outcomes he is looking for out of the day.
    3. After getting ready he then goes to the gym and works out.  The way he feels after working out in the morning helps him be more productive throughout the day.
    4. He lays out his clothes the night before so he can save time and energy the next morning.
    5. He writes out his goals every single day, he makes sure that this happens every single day.  If he misses it he knows he will feel terrible that day.
    6. He dedicates 1 hour per day to self-development.  He listens to audio books or podcasts when he is working out.
  15. Chris, I know that you are a well-read person, and our listeners are voracious readers. Can you share with our readers 1 or 2 books that have had the biggest impact on your life and why?
    1. Chris has read over 1000 Books.  
    2. Change Your Thinking, Change Your Life: How to Unlock Your Full Potential for Success and Achievement
  16. Chris, you’ve become successful as a result of doing things a certain way, what is one thing that you do every day that most people do not do?
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  18. Check him on Instagram at @chriscavallini


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How does a man with 17 arrests before the age of 18 become the founder of a multimillion dollar business and the nutritionist expert of choice for the New England patriots, Allpro tight end, Rob Gronkowski, wwe superstars, and thousands of meal prep customers all across America. On today’s show, we interview Chris Cavallini where you can, you can say what you want and claim what’s your claim, but I don’t want to hop on them. Google machines and Jecka man. What was his name again there with Chris Cavallini the founder of nutrition, and because he actually owns a multimillion dollar company and we interviewed him from his actual warehouse, you’re going to hear some background noise on a Christmas end, and that’s because that’s the sounds of a multi million dollar company going on in the background. Now, without any further ado, our exclusive interview with Chris Cavallini Chris also occasionally use this intense language, so we had to do some editing.

Thrive nation. Welcome back to another exciting edition of the thrive time show on your radio and podcast download,

and on today’s show we have an opportunity to interview the CEO and founder of nutrition solutions. Chris Cavallini. Nutrition solutions is a national healthy meal preparation company generating check this out, eight figures annually, and there are currently dominating in their space, having helped thousands, not hundreds, but thousands of everyday people just like you, to transform their bodies and lives. They’ve been trusted and utilized by professional athletes and celebrities alike, including Rob Gronkowski of my favorite team, the New England patriots, and dozens of wwe superstars, stouches such as Rey Mysterio, Roman reigns, gender, I just, the list goes on. Welcome onto the show Mr Chris Cavallini. How are you doing? It was quite an intro. I’m doing great, man. Thank you so much for having me on. I’m looking forward to this, Chris up. My understanding is that your path to success was a difficult one and one in which you were arrested 17 times previous to your 18th birthday and I’m not trying to give you a backhanded compliment if I’m exaggerating that you let me know, but can share with us.

I mean, does that accurate? You were arrested 17 times before your 18th birthday? I was arrested several times after my 10th birthday as well. But yeah, that’s uh, that’s accurate. So what, what kept you, what are you getting in so much trouble? What was going on as young man also? First of all, I mean, I think everybody’s past success is hard, right? I mean, you know, success is hard and the challenges that one faces on the path, you know, aren’t easy. I mean like if it were and there’d be a lot of other people just like crushing life, you know, there’s really no excuse clay. I just grew up, I didn’t have a lot of structure or Derek or discipline and uh, to be quite honest, I wasn’t a great kid. You know, during high school I, uh, decided to act out in such a way where, you know, I was getting a lot of attention, uh, in, in the wrong ways and ended up developing reputation with the, uh, local police department and um, know started getting arrested and things like, you know, drinking under age, trespassing, fighting, you know, it was arrested for possession of marijuana before they decriminalize it up there.

And, uh, just, you know, just walking the path, it really wasn’t consistent with, uh, you know, getting ahead or, you know, doing the right thing. There’s, there’s really no excuse. I mean, it ultimately falls on me. Um, you know, if I had to put a label on why it happened, I would attribute it just to, you know, lack of structure and lack of discipline. Uh, you know, coming up, I grew up a little unorthodox. Some I didn’t have like a, like traditional, like family, like upbringing and such. Um, you know, it had some people that, you know, did, uh, did, did their best, but I didn’t have a, you know, the structure that most kids have. And, uh, you know, developed a lot of anger issues and such and, you know, basically let that spill over into every other area of my life. At that time were you, did you grow up in foster care or with family raising you or.

Yeah, yeah. So I spend some time, spend some time in foster care, spend some time in some group homes and such and uh, spent the majority of, uh, you know, but like, my, uh, you know, cognitive development came under my grandmother’s leadership, if that makes sense. So, uh, you know, my, uh, my, my, my data, I mean he took off when my mom was pregnant with me, you know, they were both 16. So, uh, I actually didn’t. I’m 35 now. I actually just met my dad for the first time last year when I was 34, never, never seen a picture of him, you know, prior to that. So I said just didn’t have that structure. Um, you know, the accountability that, you know, kids need when they’re growing up and developing and learning how to act or not to act as a word. I’m a big believer of your career. We’re going to. We’re going to focus time on that. If you’ll let me know if you, if you don’t like the questions I asked you, tell me if it’s too personal, but. No, no, no. There’s nothing that’s off limits. Clay, honestly, like the more we get into the real issue, like the better off for me. I mean, I, I kind of pride myself on being comfortable and same things saying things that people need to hear, not necessarily what they want to hear. So there’s nothing that’s off limits. Why did you

meet your dad? He come into your life. Did you pursue him? Where, where did that conversation

come about? That’s an awesome question. Honestly, never been asked that in a public forum. Basically, you know, as I’ve like grown up and developed, accepted responsibility or everything in my life, which is ultimately, you know, one of the main catalysts for me to change my life. Um, I just started to think and wonder, like if my dad was ever looking in from the inside and kind of looking at my life and seeing like the things that I’m doing now, you know, maybe that there’s a possibility maybe he wanted to reach out, maybe he didn’t want to connect with me, but possibly because of what his perception was of being the things that I was doing now. And maybe he was a little intimidated or maybe he was just scared to say this and felt that if he did reach out, you know, I would just tell them to self essentially.

And that really started to bother me. And honestly, I know we never had a relationship. I never seen a picture of him at that point. So it’s not like I was like missing like my relationship with my dad or whatever. I was honestly in different about it, but I felt like I was carrying energy around and just wondering and worrying about whether or not he was living with that kind of, uh, that, that uncertain, that fear. And I just thought that, uh, I thought it was the right thing to do and, you know, I basically, uh, you know, uh, to take proactive action to, uh, to, to track them down. And, you know, we ended up connecting was great.

So you guys are. Are you guys talking about?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We stay in touch now. You know, he’s up in New Hampshire that the funny thing, my dad is like, he’s like the total opposite of me. I’m the complete opposite. I mean, it’s comical, um, when, uh, about a year and a half ago when he came down to Tampa to meet me, that was actually the second time in his entire life that he’d been on an airplane and he had just procured a cell phone two years prior to that, one of those like flip phones when those next stuff, like the phones are like 15 years ago. So he just, you know, he’s uh, works in construction, you know, hard worker up there. He lives up in New Hampshire and uh, that takes care of his mother and he has a girlfriend and like 19 years lives a very, very simple life. And uh, yeah, just this completely different. I mean, we kinda just grew notice opposite dimensions.

Well a poor, but I didn’t grow up like how you grew up, you know, I, I can’t relate to that. So since we interview everybody we interview starts from the bottom and now they’re here. But your bottom was a lot lower than anybody we’ve interviewed so far as what I’m perceiving. I mean, you, you grew up without that family there. Anybody really. I mean your grandmother was kind of like the plan b. It was like parenting by committee. What? Why did you change? Don’t very few people change. What was it a religious thing? Was it a. no, not at all.

You know, and I can’t say I, you know, I had nobody. I did have, you know, I did have people there and it wasn’t traditional, wasn’t conventional, but I think that the more compelling question there, you know, as, as, you know, what inspired me to change what drove me to change, it’s like, you know, I ended up my senior in high school, ended up getting arrested at a fish on a times. Ultimately it was in a situation where like I was either going to have to go to jail or I joined the military. So I joined the military and ended up spending, you know, five of the most exciting years of my life in the military. I was a navy deep sea diver, had the opportunity to be a part of a very elite community where I did grow up. I was able to develop some discipline and uh, you know, learn some skills and some, some, some positive qualities that I hadn’t had instilled in me at that point.

Um, I made the decision to get out when I was 23. He’s still very young. Uh, basically from one day to the next. I kind of lost that structure last, that, you know, that discipline, um, that the military instills in you and uh, Kinda got off track again. I ended up working in a strip club and just that lifestyle, like is it just for somebody like meat and it just kind of like triggered so many, like internal thing. And I hated the environment. I did like the people that were there, whether it be my coworkers, the girls that work there, the customers. And this was like getting in fights with the customers, drinking at work to deal with the job and uh, ultimately hated that so much clay. I quit to become a drug dealer and you don’t spend a seven years of, you know, in my twenties, like dealing anabolic steroids and did that with literally didn’t have like a normal job.

Was this doing that and making, you know, cash and living a very like, carefree lifestyle, you know, at that point. And uh, you know, ultimately it got to a point where, you know, I realized I had to make some changes. A lot of my friends, you know, drug dealers hang out with other drug dealers, right? Your byproduct of the five people you spend time with, if we’re, whatever that saying is a lot of my friends, you know, at the time started going, you know, getting in trouble, going to prison and my best friend, um, ultimately, you know, God don’t, trouble got sent to prison and uh, you know, that really kind of put things in perspective for me and I, I, I became obsessed with the thought of what my life would look like if I didn’t start making some changes and uh, you know, that was the, uh, the, the factor that got me to, you know, begin to turn my life around and start getting my shit together and had, I still don’t think I have my ish together, but I, I be gone at that point to make some serious radical changes to, uh, to, to begin to walk a different path.

And I apologize if my questions aren’t, aren’t linear, but you, earlier you said that you had an opportunity to go to prison. I don’t know if that’s enough or in the middle of time we did somebody actually sit down with you and say, hey, you can go to prison or the military.

Is that actually a convert?

Yup. So, so I was getting arrested a lot and it was, it was tricking them, little things, minor things. It wasn’t anything like super serious, uh, you know, at that point. But, you know, it gets to the point where, you know, you’re, you’re re-offending over and over and over again in the state. Just got sick of a see me. And I had judges that knew me by name. They knew my face, they recognize my face. Um, you know, uh, the prosecutor at the time was the same one that I dealt with him, uh, you know, as a juvenile. So he was very familiar with me and um, he was actually the one that recommended that I joined the military and I didn’t have the best, uh, you know, living situation. Um, you know, my senior year in high school, I actually got kicked out of the House multiple times and had to live with a friend.

Got Actually sent to live in a group home, which was just horrible at that point, being as you know, a 17, 18 years old and having to stay in a group home, like not ideal, um, you know, he basically linked up with a recruiter like behind my back and uh, they basically, you know, impose this on me and it was laid down very, very firm and very clear. And when I had committed to joining the military, it was also made very clear to me that if I didn’t join the military, that certain charges that they had dismissed contingent upon me joining would be brought back up.

So you, so you joined the military, you get out, you get, you start going back to the kind of your old life a little bit. You go into the Strip club, you start selling drugs. So anabolic steroids. Is there attorney, is there a specific day? Do you remember? A specific day, a specific time. If you could visualize a specific moment in life where you thought to yourself, if you can think back, this is when I quit, uh, doing, making poor decisions consistently. Was there a specific time because now you’re having massive success. Was there a specific day, a fork in the road that occurred for you?

I honestly don’t think that poor making poor decisions completely behind me if I’m being totally honest here. Uh, you know, I make mistakes every day. I think that’s kind of part of the process. You know, it, it was a series of things, man, you know, as I said, a huge, huge kind of like slap in the face, wake up call, shall we call it was when, you know, my best friend got sent to prison and then just, just the, just the overall, you know, they’re, they’re actually, you know, it was a time where I can remember, I remember who I was talking to. I remember we were sitting and you know, at that time when I didn’t have a job when I was selling, you know, steroids of course I had a cover story, right. You meet people and say, Hey, what do you do? And he’s like, oh, I, so steroids don’t tell anybody.

And he had a story that I would tell that like made sense at the time and um, you know, I, it was a lie, of course a life was a lie at that juncture, but I can remember, you know, this, this person having this interaction and uh, the massive media. So what do you do? And as I said that live with the 10,000 time, I just became overcome with like just a feeling of this add should just, just, just not a very good feeling when I felt sick to my stomach and I, I got sick and tired of living a lie. And, uh, ultimately I, I just, I started really, really focusing on, you know, not necessarily like what I had to do and you know, to make these changes. But I started focusing on, okay, well, if I don’t make these changes, what is my life going to look like a year from now, three years from now?

And that dark, you know, narrative. That dark image of that dark place that are inevitably a find myself in was really all the motivation that I needed to get off and started doing. The right things in such an issue happened. So when did you have the first have the idea to start nutrition solutions because at the company now is an eight figure business doing very well. When did you first have the idea to start this business? We’re definitely doing okay man. No shorter to various, to uh, to be improved on things of working on, to get better. Um, we have seen our fair shifts success. Certainly not ignorant to that fact, but a lot of things that we need to work on. Um, I can remember, you know, it’s funny, I was actually at a Weber public, which is one of the biggest invest pool parties in the world.

It’s in Las Vegas. I was out there with some friends. There was a guy who I was out there with and party with them, uh, you know, regularly and uh, he was in great shape, look good. And I complimented on and like, you know, what are you doing different? This guy was a professor, he is, it was a professional mma fighter and like his body kind of like, like I knew when he was getting ready for a fight, like his body would be like, dialed in and such, but he wasn’t giving me fine. He looked awesome and it compelled me to, to, to compliment them and just kind of asking what are you doing different? And he said that, uh, he had this company in south Florida where he lives that was essentially making his meals from. They’re preparing those meals based off his goals. If he was trying to lose fat and get cut up, they would make smaller portions if he was trying to like pack on some size and make bigger portions.

And I just thought that was such a cool concept and I was like, man, I want to do that. And when at that time I want to do that, translated into like I want it to do business with that company. I wanted to have my meals prepared for me. I want to eat good. Uh, and, you know, get in better shape and uh, you know, basic reached out to that company and uh, started, uh, getting the meals from them and it, it, it. I saw an opportunity there I saw, you know, avoid. And there’s a lot of people in the city that I was living in that uh, you know, I knew, I mean, being a drug dealer, I partied a lot on, went out like five, six nights a week. That’s kind of how I met my clientele. And I knew a lot of people.

It’s like the man about town and uh, I knew of a lot of people that were into fitness and wanting to step their game up as far as their, uh, their, their, their fitness goals are concerned, but you don’t necessarily have an outlet, didn’t have the time to cook, didn’t have the skills to open up the desire to cook. And again, it was inspired by, by that conversation and doing business for a period of time with that company. And I just decided that, you know, what, like I want to do this in such a way where like, it’s not just about selling food and that’s what that company does. They were just selling food. Like I want to do this in such a way where like, we’re actually helping people where we’re not just providing them meals, but we’re providing structure, providing them accountability, we’re providing them support part of the education, we’re providing the motivation and essentially doing our part to help them move proactively towards their goals by holding them accountable. And uh, just again, like, you know, providing the resources that they need to, uh, to create those transformations and essentially dominate their goals.

Now, whenever I interviewed a guy like you, I try to creep, go to page two, page three on Google, try to read what I can and I’m prepared for you. Just a moment to drop a knowledge bomb so chaplain and mentally prepare the weekends when I started my first company Dj Connection. And if you get a chance to check it out, if we can, after we get off the show, it’s DJ I’ve sent sold it, but we were doing like 4,000 weddings a year DJ We started off doing party club entertainment. I realized probably not conducive for the lifestyle that I wanted, so moved into weddings. Long story short, we’re doing a lot of weddings now. That’s cool. I had a vision for it. Taken wedding entertainment to the next level. That’s cool. You had a vision for taking a a basic meal prep to the next level. That’s cool. I had to work three jobs, applebee’s, target, direct TV, and then the summers I did concrete. That’s how I raised my money. People say, how’d you do it? I not exaggerating. I literally was scheduled over 100 hours a week every week between my three jobs. How did you raise the capital to start this business? Because I 100 percent agree. I sense your passion. You’re somebody out there listening who identifies with your passion, but they’re going, how did you get the capital man? How did you raise the cap

needed to start? So my. My answer is not the best of the best narrative for perspective, but I am happy to take to advise on that as well as far as, you know, the proper way to fundraise and stuff with my situation. You know, I was transitioning out of, you know, becoming a drug dealer. So when this opportunity presented itself, I literally went from, you know, doing what I was doing to having my first pool of customers be like my friends and people that I knew and I essentially went to a local catering company and basically made them a proposal, a local catering company already established already in business, has to staff women overhead and I said, hey listen, I need you to make x amount of meals for me per week. I can pay you, you know, why? And then essentially like I would do that and then flip them for a profit.

So I really didn’t have any money when I started out and I was very, very fortunate and that’s like completely unheard of. And like it’s, I almost don’t like telling that story because it’s so. It’s so uncommon and that’s basically not the way business normally works, but I was so fortunate to be able to do that and essentially like, you know, get to a point where okay, at 10 customers, then I saved a little money in at 20 customers and 30 and 50 and then 100. Then it got to the point it’s like, okay, well now I actually have enough money to invest in my own facilitator, rent my own kitchen to hire three people to prepare the meals and deliver the meals and such. So that’s how I got started. But as far as, you know, fundraising and stuff, this concert, it all, it really all depends on, you know, what your current level of experience, what your skill is like, what, where you come from.

Um, if you have experienced and you have connections and you know, people, it’s a lot easier to get out there and get in front of the right people and pitch yourself and, and, and, you know, sell people on a concept or an idea. A lot of people aren’t comfortable. I mean, to their business 10, 15 years that aren’t even comfortable doing that. Um, you know, at the end of the day, it’s what I’ve determined and discovered through our trials and tribulations and countless, uh, you know, uh, encounters with failure. The person like resources are typically never the problem. It’s always just a lack of resourcefulness. So if you want something bad enough and your idea is good enough, your concepts get enough, you’re going to figure that shit out. Whether that’s like literally like applying for, you know, four or five credit cards of Watson maxing all about taking loans out and going all in lucky.

You got to figure it out. If you can’t let the, the fact that you know, you maybe you don’t know anybody or you don’t feel comfortable doing the presentation or you know, don’t want to cold call like potential investors. Like I get it, like some people just aren’t capable. I mean, the thought of that for some is just so overwhelming. But if you know, history is good, if you know that you have a winner and you’re fully sold and committed, like you need to be okay and be comfortable going into debt, going into serious debt and just have the confidence and belief in yourself, belief in your brand that even though you might pay that even though you might be going all in and putting yourself in a very vulnerable position, you know, for the time being, that ultimately because you’re willing to do the work and because you believe in what it is you’re doing, you know, everything’s gonna be okay.

It’s going to be more than okay. And uh, you know, you’re going to win. Where’s your, where’s your office today? Where are you located today? Just so listeners could kind of. The large orders is in Tampa, Florida, Tampa, Florida. And what was your first office where you office a in a, in a van? The van. Funny that you say that. I was asking. Yeah. So literally our business started up where basically we were transporting the meals from the catering company to a parking lot in the back of a, in the back of a hatchback, almost like a, where it’s like a, like a, like a Subaru outback type, almost like a station wagon. And what we would do is we would put the bags of food in the hatch back, open the thing, and then cover it with ice blankets. And, uh, the vehicle would meet at the central location that was centrally located to like the, you know, eight, nine, 10 clients I have at the top.

And, and we did that for a little while and, and, you know, then I started, I got to the point where we couldn’t do that anymore because not only was that ghetto, um, it was not, it was dangerous. I mean, in Florida it’s hot, but we couldn’t take that risk. And I had some connections with the club within the club scene. So I’m a guy I knew was, was generous enough to let me, uh, utilize the beer cooler of his nightclub during the day to put the food in. The clients would come there, the club isn’t open on Sunday day and we distribute there. It’s like I did what I had to do to, to, to, to do what I had to do with that time. Rob Gronkowski now, if anybody who we have a lot of listeners, hundreds of thousands of people that listen to each and every show and I am an obsessive fan of the Patriots for over 18 years now.

Can you tell us how you or what the process, what the interaction was that led to you landing on Rob Gronkowski, the, the, all pro tight end for the New England patriots as a client? Yeah. So, so wrong actually. Him and I have a very close mutual friend. Um, this guy a Mojo, awesome guy. He’s actually a wwe, you know, athlete works with Web. Me Or good friends. Him and Robert, good friends module actually played ball with a, with a rob’s brother in college. Mojo is used our company for awhile seen amazing success with it and basically just talked to rob and uh, you know, connected us and you know, um, that basically, that’s what I started to mean like a year and a half ago. And you know, rob uses us, uh, you know, when he travels, he uses us when, uh, needs to tighten up. But he’s a, I think, you know, he started taking it a little more seriously as far as fitness and is eating a after his last big injury and you know, he’s got himself in amazing shape, um, you know, over these last couple of years.

So the short answer, the short answer, the general answer to what the question that you’re asking is, you know, relationships are important. Like you gotta do you gotTa treat people well. You’ve got to go out of your way to try to cultivate relationships, to develop new relationships and just basically like do the most you can with the people that are in your immediate network. The people that you have the available team now do the most. You can do the best you can with them. And just to see what happens there. It’s, it’s a, it’s uh, being a good person is always like a winning strategy and just by doing that, you know, it just organically and other things start to happen there, you know, people will start to tell their, their family, their coworkers, their peers, like Dale, tell them about you and your product and your brand.

And, you know, one thing that, you know, probably a lot of people that are listening have heard, I’m sure you’ve heard this and know this. People like to do business with people they like and yeah. And that’s kind of what, that’s something that I can honestly say I’ve done a decent job with over the years as this developing solid relationships that have allowed me to kind of grow and cultivate other relationships and doing right by others. It’s, it’s, it’s definitely, uh, it’s definitely helped us grow our business with limited resources, limited experience. Um, you know, being, being able to earn the word of mouth. I mean, I think that there’s a certain level of expectation out there for entrepreneurs and people think, oh, you know, word of mouth. How do we advertise word of mouth? Well, you better be like, word of mouth is not it. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a privilege that is earned and it’s earned through very deliberate, consistent actions over the sustain longterm. Um, it is not your client’s responsibility to go and Laura Find Your Business and refer all the people they know. It is your responsibility to do all the additions you need to do to make them want to do that.

And just to provide a little academic support for what you just said. Um, Harvard produced a report called the net promoter score. If you went to Harvard, you would have heard exactly what Chris just said. And all they say is when you wow people, when you, while somebody’s on a scale of one to 10, if you ask somebody, how loud were you? On a scale of one to 10, 10 being yes, I am wowed and one being not so much. If somebody is a level eight and above, they cathartic for psychological reasons. We’ll share it with somebody because they’re happy and if they are pissed they will tell it to five people because that’s what they do. They feel a need to share it. And so this is the part of the interview where I might really it jump. It’s going to get weird potential here. And if Chris Cavallini hangs up until I know, go, I like it. Let’s get weird. So run skype. You’re a man with tattoos. Most people don’t get tattoos. Um, random is. So I want you to talk about, uh, is there, uh, do your tattoos have any significant meaning? A lot of them do through a couple of the one on your hand. The Hand Tattoo.

Oh, seeing the significance of that is just, you know, reminded me of the importance of developing the level of consciousness and just being aware of energy, being aware of being present in the moment and just being able to actually see things for what they are and not necessarily what they, you know, floating. They want you to see it as a, you know, being able to, to look at that and like evaluate situations, evaluate people, evaluate problems, and look at it for what it is not actually worse than it is. His eyes held the where it’s let me get to where I am today. You know, I have a lot of times, a lot of them have a, you know, a meaning. It would take a whole other podcast too.

Well, I noticed it on your, on your hand, and chuck can validate this. Do I not have the eye of providence in the office and in this room? Everywhere you can put it. Yeah, it’s someone’s in the bathroom, the bathroom. It’s on the wall. People think it’s on Gilman. Naughty Ish. What? Reasonable. Why? I put it everywhere. So I believe that God is watching everything and you better be self aware because if God’s watching, if you don’t believe in God, I mean you just have to know what people are thinking, what they’re seeing, how they process. You need to be self aware. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. So I want to ask you this next question. Now you’ve decided you’ve decided to hire a team. Did is comprised basically, and if I’m, if I’m exaggerating, please correct me of a former homeless people, convicted felons, military veterans. Now the military veterans that seems like, oh, that’s great. That makes sense. Um, I hire a lot of military veterans when possible. I love love military people. They’re strong people, great values, great work ethic. It’s been taught to them coach to them, but hiring homeless people, convicted felons. It seems like that might be not maybe the wisest move, but yet you’re all in with that. Can you talk to me about why you’ve hired formless former homeless people and convicted felons? You know,

our culture is built upon helping people. You know, I think a lot of companies probably have that as a core value in, you know, they’re, they’re alluding to their customers, right? They want the perception to be that they’re in the game to help people. And really, you know, I’ve, I’ve lived 35 years, I’ve been on this planet and, you know, just to be frank, you know, I’ve done more things that I’m not proud of the things that I am when I accepted responsibility over my, my past, uh, the poor decisions that I’ve made, countless poor decisions that I made, the lifestyle that I used to live, the people that I’ve heard, you know, all those things, you know, I, I, I realized that just taking responsibility, you know, that’s like 20 percent of it. The other 80 percent is taking action to try to rectify those things.

And you know, I, I believe I have a lot of, uh, a lot of wrong doing to make up for. And a philanthropy is super, super important to me. When I started to, uh, begin to Kinda like walk away from my former life, that was something I started to get involved with. I started, you know, going to different shelters and churches that were like feeding the homeless. And you know, at the time we didn’t have the resources that I have now. So that’s how I, that’s how I gave back, that’s what I contribute beyond myself and I, I saw something, I felt something there that I never felt before it became a, it became a mainstay in my, in my life. And I’m in a top priority, um, you know, bringing it back to helping people, you know, are my, my strategy to grow this company is to develop the people within.

Okay, if we can help the people with them, if we can bring the people within this organization, you know, just to take a step higher from where they’re at and continue to do that. I mean ultimately everything else will take care of itself, right? So by authentically, you know, caring for people by giving people opportunities that they otherwise. I mean, I mean the reality is this, most of my leadership in this company are convicted felons have spent time in prison and that’s a fact. And they’re also like my top performers from my experience, you know. Were you providing, you had mentioned that it’s like it’s a, it’s a risky thing. It’s not the, you know, it might be the thing that people are like, yeah, like I, I get it. I mean most if I lived in like a, like a normal life that didn’t live the life that I, that, that I did, I probably would feel the same way, but because I have a, you know, done some of the things that I’ve done and uh, you know, I mean I was a criminal for lot of years, right?

Like I, I mean I have multiple felonies on my record. Like I get it, you know, I, I don’t think that a person should be defined by a single action or a series of actions. Like in my case, I mean it was a years of actions. I think that people do change people sometimes. It’s a very difficult time changing due to the fact that, you know, maybe this happened to them in the past and now they have this on the record, so now they can’t even get in the door. They can’t think that they don’t have an opportunity to prove themselves to rectify themselves, to, to begin to lead, to, to reform and rehabilitate themselves. So they’re always going to be stuck working a job around like two ish people that bring out the, like the worst in them and they don’t have the chance to evolve.

So, you know, I, I’ve, I’ve really taken this responsibility very, very seriously as far as, you know, utilizing the platform that I do have with the company and opening our doors to people that, you know, that, that no struggle that have been through like a lot of issues that have been homeless that, that might still currently be home homeless. Um, I don’t, I don’t think right now that we do, but I know a multiple times here. We’ve had people that have lived in shelters or lived in halfway houses, things of that nature and um, you know, after some time and some, some, some, some training and structure and support, you know, they’ve got onto those situations. So, um, that’s something that’s really important to me and I’ll tell you like, like it’s hard, man. Like, it doesn’t always work out, like I’m not going to sit here and tell you that.

Yeah, every single one that we bring in the end up being this like massive turnaround success story because that would be a lie. I will say that there are probably just as many times that it doesn’t work out the times that it does with those times that it does. I mean, even if even if it worked out even less than that doesn’t mean it is so worth it. So it’s, there’s just something that’s just so just empowering feeling, just seeing someone that comes from, you know, not the best surface has a just very, very, uh, controversial, questionable pasts and uh, you know, may have seen the worst of what life has to offer in the world. Maybe chewed up and spit out and by giving them an opportunity to giving them the proper training and foundation and platform, just watching them evolve, watching them grow and watching them do the work to make themselves better and essentially provide a better life for themselves and their family.

I mean, there’s honestly no better feeling in the world than that and the other side is this, there is upside to with this and these situations. You know, what some of these people, because they’ve been to the bottom, they know what rock bottom tastes like. Okay? And now because of that, a lot of times what you’ll find out is that they have this like this, like intrinsic drive to, to do whatever it takes to move forward and, you know, with the proper support, which, you know, they have a lot of other felons, people that have been to jail and president such around them that have kind of already made that change. Um, it, it, uh, it definitely eases the process and helps, uh, you know, lift them up and take them to the next level from where they’re currently at. Nutrition Solutions Dot com is by no means a perfect company, are not claiming it’s a perfect company.

You’re not claiming your furthest thing from, but you’ve definitely started from the bottom and you’re growing and you’re continuing to grow. I want to ask you, what is the most powerful piece of advice that you’ve ever been given when I was 18 years old and I was a in the navy, one of my instructors gave, uh, the class that he was teaching at the time gave us a very simplistic yet just highly impactful piece of advice that has resonated with me and something I still applied to this day. Personally, professionally. He said, if you look good, you are good. And I think when people would hear that they would think that maybe we’re talking about like physical appearance and although that is important, I do think that he should always do your best to maintain a proper physical appearance. You know, keep your knee and your facial hair groom, like dress a step above.

Like you know what the minimum is because you’ll feel better, you’ll feel better, you’ll feel more coffee, will attract more good things. But as it pertains to like things like, you know, your, your home, like making your bed, keeping your car clean, keeping your workspace neat and organized. The, the, the, the contrast between how you feel, how your mind operates when you’re in a neat organized environment versus the ladder. It is profoundly, profoundly different. And I’ve found that I’ve, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve demonstrated this on, on multiple times over the performance, just pride taken in and just overall the way people feel is directly attributed to their environment. So by keeping, I mean this was one of the things again that, that, that I had trained in me from the military that when I got out, I got, I lost and then just went backwards. When I started making these changes, what do I already know?

Like I meant that I couldn’t do a lot of personal development to read a lot of books, but what do I already know? What are, what have I already learned? And thought about some of the things that the military taught me and they, you know, they teach you about discipline and teach about attention to detail and having high standards. And I started doing things like making my bed every day. Like not keeping a bunch of dishes in the sink, not having my car be a completely, like just, just keeping my environment’s clean, neat and organized and just like the way that my mind started the work and the way that I felt was just better. I mean, we need to set our lives up for just optimal performance and success and that’s a very, very easy way to do that is by making sure you’re good looking good and you know, ultimately you look good, you feel good, you perform good. It’s all relative. How do you

now as a very intentional and purposeful person who was always getting better, you’re striving to become better every year. How do you organize the first four hours of your typical day?

Yeah, so I, I get up the same time every morning. The alarm hits, I get up. What time did this. I get up at 4:50 in the morning for 50 slash 50 in the morning. I’m most days five or six days a week there. I’m very disciplined with the time I get up. I’m not as disciplined with the time I go to bed. So there are some days I go to bed too late and then you know, for 50 is not enough sleep, but for the most part I get up at 4:50. It’s very important that I get up when that alarm and don’t hit the snooze button by hitting the snooze button. I would essentially be starting my day off for boss last. That would ultimately kind of transcend and gain momentum throughout the day. So it’s very important when you’re hitting you after you set that for very specific reason, honor the commitments that you make to yourself when you hit this

many people telling me this, when you hit the snooze, you lose because what you’re doing is you’re saying, I’m not willing to hold myself accountable to a small commitment I made to myself. Therefore cognitively you experience dissonance emotionally and now the rest of the day you just kind of feel bad.

That’s true. And again, it. It’s about building that discipline. It’s about honoring the commitments that you make with yourself and that, that getting up early, making your bed like those things correlate into every other area of your life. Whether you’re able to identify that as, as, as reality, uh, you know, at this present time are not, it’s, it’s true. So I’ll get up. I don’t grab my phone and like, you know, I start flipping through social media. That’s like the opposite of what I do. Um, I just, I, I start thinking about the things that I have to be grateful for for I, this isn’t something that comes natural. It’ll just wake up like, like, you know, good morning, just jump up with a ton of energy, you know, I’m tired. Of course I’m tired who’s not tired of that time, but you get up and do the things that you need to do because the work is going to do itself.

But I want to prime myself to feel good for the day. So I started thinking about things that will make me feel good. Whether I think about the things that I’m grateful for it as I’m sitting there brushing my teeth, I think about the outcomes that I’m trying to achieve that day. And uh, you know, from there I’ll go do a job. I work out, I work out in the morning, which is, this is this, this is a huge one, the difference. And again, on the days that I don’t make it to the gym in the morning and I at it, I go at night. It’s not, it’s not a problem as far as, Oh, if I don’t go now, like I’ll never, that’s not a problem for me. It is for a lot of people, but I think that the main benefit to working out in the morning is the way that you feel after the fact, after a workout, you’re brain is basically releasing a bunch of dope me and in chemicals that will literally help you be more productive and, uh, essentially perform at a much higher level throughout the day.

And it’s, it’s, it’s a hard thing for most people to do because they want to sleep the last possible minute and you know, like bypass the shower, whatever. You’ve got to get up, you’ve got to work out in prime yourself to have an awesome day. After that, um, you know, I’ll, uh, I’ll go an obviously go back home, change into my clothes. I try to lay out my clothes for the day the night before. That saves me a lot of time and energy, you know, in the morning. And uh, you know, at that point I, uh, I, I write down my targets for the day and write down my goals every single day. I’m writing my goals down sometimes twice a day, everyday and every, every single day. Regardless if I’m roadrunner, regardless if I’m writing like targets for the day, if it’s not a good visit day that I’m not working an off chance.

I always write my goals down in, in the unlikely event that I, I miss a day. I, I genuinely feel like they should on it because I mean, that’s so important because like, you know, we’re all busy. Everybody’s busy. So busy. You know, we talk about visualizing and seeing your goals before they happen. Like that. I mean by, by writing your goals down. I mean, you’re essentially putting yourself in a position where you’re visualizing, you’re writing them down and you’re thinking about it. You’re putting it in your mind and you know, by doing it every day. I mean, obviously it’s increasing the probability of a successful outcome tremendously. So, um, yeah, that’s basically the, uh, the write the goals down, right? It’s down for the day and then just get after it. Are you a married guy? You single? Not Single. Okay. So, uh, you, you, you’re a guy who, who’s very productive for your guy who’s very proactive. Your guys always improving your guy. Who, from what I could tell by reading about you, you seem to be a guy who is either well read or you’re, you’re taking in wisdom from either audio books and reading books. Is there a specific audio book or a book you’ve read that you would recommend to the listeners? Maybe just one specific or a couple books where you go. That book for me was very,

uh, I know you’ve got a lot of your training for the military, but is there a specific book that really was pivotal for you?

Yeah. Yeah. And I appreciate all the things, you know, you just said, I certainly don’t feel that way about myself. Like I, I, man, I, I am the furthest thing from perfect and have so far to go from where I know ultimately will be in. I will tell you this isn’t, this is a great question. I have read over a thousand bucks and I started reading books at the tail end of my drug dealing days. I mean like I needed to figure it out. I didn’t know what I wanted to do, what I could do or even, you know, like what to do or how to do it. And uh, you know, somebody Thomas, Amen. You gotta start like reading these books. You got to start watching these Tony, Tony Robbins on Youtube. So I started doing that and as a drug dealer with no real schedule at a tremendous amount of time on my hands.

So I’ve read a lot of books, man. And I continue to do that, that, that, that without question was the primary catalyst, you know, bridging the gap between, you know, where I was then and then, you know, starting my business and starting to do like, you know, pretty decent with the business. So it’s a strategy that worked and continues to work. Now I dedicated one of the things I didn’t say during my morning routine during my workout when I’m doing my cardio, I’m listening to an audio book. I, my, my rule for myself is I dedicate one hour per day towards self education of some sort. Whether that’s audio book, podcast, uh, you know, reading a blog article like going online and watching like some sort of content that’s consistent to becoming a better human being. That is part of my work day. That’s not something I look at as, oh, this extra hour for this, whatever.

And it’s part of my work day. It’s mandatory. It’s not optional. You didn’t have every read Robert Greene or Napoleon Hill. Is there a third tour? Yeah. Yeah. So, so the book, the book, out of all the books that I’ve ever read, and thank you for really me in there and of all the books that I’ve ever read, the one that I believe has been the most impactful for me. And I think, well a lot of your listeners would get tremendous value out of it. Is Change your thinking, change your life by Brian Tracy up. I have in fact read that seven or eight times and I’ll probably read it another seven, eight by Brian Trench. Change your thinking, change your life by Brian Tracy.

I have a book for you that’s a very self serving book recommendation for it, but I think you’ll like it. What is it? Um, I, uh, about seven years ago, six years ago, began this quest where I’ve started officially taking time out on my calendar and just interviewing as many people as I possibly could who are, what I would call super successful. And one of the things I’ve found is that super successful people, they get things done in a way that is abnormal. Like what your normal schedule is. The same schedules, every single super performer. I interviewed the same. Everyone’s waking up at 4:00 AM, waking up at five and so I wrote a, but it’s not really my words, it just called the art of getting things done and it’s on Amazon. But I interviewed David Robinson, Nba Hall of Famer. He also is done. He’s actually earned more money off the court that on the court as a venture capital investor, you have Lee Cockerel, he managed 40,000 employees at one time at Disney world.

Then you had Michael Levine, who’s the PR consultant for check this, check out this roster. His clients included Michael Jackson, prince, Nike, Bill Clinton, and George Bush all at the same time. He’s worked with all these people and uh, he’s my, he’s my pr guy now. And so in the book we identified 66 moves that they all gave me separately, like, Hey, this is what they do. And so it’s everything funny from like if you have to go to an obligatory event to event, be the first one there, say hello and the piece out. That way they know you were there. But there’s also like how to organize your day. It’s what books they read, but it’s called the art of getting things done. And we just released it. This shit. It’s doing very, very well. But I think, Fred, I like it.

I give you my word. I’ll, I’ll get on that. I’ll give you some feedback.

Yeah, I think, I think he would have fun with it, just like it’s so many specific notable quotables and it’s kind of like a, you know, it’s like one page has the move and then it breaks down how to do it and it asks you action steps for your life. I think you’d enjoy it in the book that we all got to pick up right now. We all got to pick up Brian Tracy’s book and shut. The title of that book was change your thinking, change your thinking and your thinking. Change your life. Now, Chris it. For the listeners out there who are big, some people have obviously become fans of you during this interview. People are starting to love with her here and there. They’re picking up on the energy, the passion. Is there an action step? Could all the listeners get a sample of what? Of your food? Can they, are you, are you located geographically? I mean for people who want to engage with you, learn more with you, become part of the community. What’s the next step?

Yes, you can hit me up on my social media. I’m very active on my instagram. I do a lot of my stories at Chris Cavallini, a c, a, b, a l l I n I Chris Cavallini on facebook, the companies on nutritional solutions and nutrition solutions on insta and a nutrition Um, you know, if, uh, if you do listen to this interview, I’d love for you to send me a DM on instagram or leave me a comment. Let me know, uh, what you think it could have done better. And, uh, yeah, I mean I’m always open to feedback and die and I really appreciate this opportunity and I definitely look forward to connecting with some of the listeners and I hope that just even if just one person, I mean, if they can decipher some sort of value out of this message and it’s realizing it doesn’t matter like where you’re at now, it absolutely doesn’t matter. Everybody has the capabilities of getting to the next level and when you get to that next level, you replicate that pattern and you keep doing that to the end of time. And that’s how winning is done.

I know you’re a busy guy, but if you find yourself free on December seventh, Michael, Michael Levine, he will be speaking at our conference. I really think you would appreciate his energy and his mindset. Let’s Michael Levine, the PR guy for nitrogen prints and all those guys. I really think, man, he would have some great insight for you, but it’s in Tulsa. We have about a 20,000 square foot facility there and it’s December seventh and eighth. And if you find yourself, you know, free. Where did you say it was? It’s in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And so for you it would be a pr two flights away. You go from, from Tampa to Dallas and from Dallas to Tulsa. That’s right. And the travel agent in a previous life, dude, after I sold dj connection, I was, I was this comedian writer was Kennedy’s Djs. Cut. You’re like a low level comedian.

So I became kind of a business comedian, so I have taken a flight to virtually every city in America at this corner and everyone tells me, oh, we have a ton of people coming from Florida. We end of December, people from Australia, Canada come in. I mean, it’s going to be hundreds of folks there. Dude, I’d love to have you speak if you’re in town, if not, no big deal, but I just tell you, you would love to meet Michael. I’d love to connect you guys. I mean, you would love that. Thank you for offering. Let’s, let’s definitely stay in touch. Let’s make it happen, man. Awesome. Well, Hey, you know, we like to end every show with a boom and around here. Boom. Stands for big, overwhelming, optimistic momentum. And so if you’re prepared to bring us to boom from Tampa, uh, are, are you ready to bring a boom, my friend? We’re just giving them the boom. Chuck, are you ready for a big boom? We’re going to Canada, Dave. Current Tin, one of our sponsors. Are you ready for it though? Oh, I’m ready. We’re all ready for a boom. So here we go. We’re counting down from three, three, one.


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