How to Bring Your Faith into Your Business

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If you sincerely have a faith in something, what role should it play in your business? Clay Clark gets into the nitty-gritty details of incorporating your faith into your business.

Could you do a show on the right way, like Chick-fil-A, Hobby Lobby to incorporate faith into business. Or the wrong way like the a business that uses christian symbols to hide their bad work.

I don’t like seeing a van that says their faith is their provider and yet the van is broken down and beat up. I never want to hide behind my faith, I want my work to be so good on its own that people might ask about my faith. But listening to the podcasts I’m seeing examples that I do admire of people/businesses incorporating faith subtly. How did those businesses get there and what other businesses have done it wrong and failed – Nathan

Christianity Is Not a Marketing Strategy for David Greene and Hobby Lobby, It’s His Entire Focus

  • You Are Not Supposed to Just Pass Out the Christian Tract (Brochure, leaflet, etc.), You Are Supposed to Be the Tract
    1. When was the last time someone asked, “Why are you always so positive?”
    2. People should be asking you, “What’s the logic behind your hope?”
    3. You are supposed to be the light in the world of darkness.
  • He puts God first and then thinks about himself.
  • NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “If you have anything or if I have anything, it’s because it’s been given to us by our Creator. So I have learned to say, ‘Look, this is yours, God. It’s all yours. I’m going to give it to you.’” – David Greene (Founder of Hobby Lobby)
  • NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “All the things we do, all our behavior, should let others know that we are living by, and operating in, Biblical principles. Principle and character are the highest quality traits on our list.” – David Greene (Founder of Hobby Lobby)
  • He Objects to Obamacare Rules That Require American Businesses to Provide a List of 20 Different Contraceptive Methods to Their Employees
    1. Willing to pay $1.3 million per day fine for refusing to abide by the Affordable Care Act mandates
    2. NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “People are saying that we’re taking the rights from somebody, there’s no way we are taking anybody’s rights away – it’s our rights that are being infringed upon by requiring us to do something that’s against our conscience.”  – David Greene (Founder of Hobby Lobby)
  • He Believes in Trying to Convert Employees to Christianity


    1. NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “I would like to know that we have brought as many people to know Christ as we possibly can. We hope to continue to just grow our company. As long as there’s someone on this earth that doesn’t know Jesus Christ, we have a job to do.” – David Greene (Founder of Hobby Lobby)
  • Customers, Employees and Humanity Will Judge You Based Upon What You Do
    1. NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say. I just watch what they do.” – Andrew Carnegie (One of the world’s wealthiest men who started working at the age of 13 to support his family. Carnegie’s first job in 1848 was as a bobbin boy, changing spools of thread in a cotton mill 12 hours a day, 6 days a week in a Pittsburgh cotton factory. His starting wage was $1.20 per week ($36.36 in 2017 dollars)
  • Let Your Work Be Your Worship
    1. NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.” – Colossians 3: 23-24
  • Don’t Give Up Your Faith in Exchange for Finances


    1. NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    2. But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God.
    3. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.” – James 14-26

NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you’ll do things differently.” – Warren Buffett

NOTABLE QUOTABLE – Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow. – Proverbs 11:13

Focus on what matters:

  1. Be fruitful and THEN Multiply
  2. Money is a magnifier

NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” – 1 Timothy 5:8

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We have another best business conferences question that was email into us from a member of the thrive nation of man, the myth, the legend of ember, the name of nathan. Ask such a question. Could you read the question that I emailed into us he said:could you do a show on the right way, like chick-fil-a, hobby, lobby, to incorporate faith into business or the wrong way like the business that uses christian symbols to hide their bad work? I, don’t like seeing a van that says their faith is there provider and yet the van is broken down and beat up I never want to hide behind my faith. I want my work to be so good on itoh. No, that people might ask about my face, but listening to the podcast I’m, seeing examples that I do admire of people or businesses incorporating faith subtly. How did these businesses get there and what other businesses have done it wrong and failed thanks nathan?

So we’re going to answer the question and we’re going to use the hobby lobby case studies I’m very familiar with that a read everything has to read about it and I’ll give an example. This is david green, david green doesn’t believe that christianity is so that you sprinkle on the side. He doesn’t believe it’s a marketing strategy, marshall entire focus drive. Our focus is to mentor millions billions. That’s all we do that’s it. What’s your mission statement, mentor business conferences millions, why don’t people achieve time, freedom and financial freedom? It’s not soon. We sprinkle on the side. So you hear me all the time marshalls who wants to be a client and I’ll say:they’re, not a good fit because people crate time freedom and financial freedom and their job did their goal. That did look up. Tell you as a coach or have a potential client built. Their goal is to avoid their spouse at all costs. They want to just work all the time. Did you not hear these things because I really I just my goal-is to make as much money as possible. Cuz I can’t stand. My family I just want to be away from my family I want to make as much money as possible. Cuz I just want to crush the competition and stack cashmina. Do not hear the song I hear it more times than I wish. I did right in so what happens is we are goes to mentor millions and help people create time, freedom and financial freedom. So if you want to create time, freedom and financial freedom that we are a good fit, if not, somebody else is a good fit so david green, his entire focus makes you understand this is to lead people to christ.

That is his entire focus. What’s repeat, hobby lobby? What’s the gold air marshal to lead people to christ right? So these are some things that david greenwood would tell you. If you were here today, he says if you have anything or if I have anything, it’s because it’s been given by the creator, so I have learned to say look! This is yours god! It’s all yours, I’m, going to give it to you. He goes on to say all the things we do all our behavior should. Let others know that we are living by operating in biblical principles, principle and character of the highest quality traits on our list. So how does he do it? Do you realize he only plays christian music in the stores? Yes, why? What do you want cuz? This whole goal is to lead people to christ you let you understand. The only reason he hasa store is to lead you to christ. He has no ambition to be on leading you to christ. He doesn’t want to become the biggest hobby, decor home, good supplier or the best business conferences speaker. He doesn’t want to sell the most amir’s his entire golf. Do you realize I spent an entire day with this man and chuck? Do you know what he does with his money? He gives like a huge right. I know:this? Doesn’t, open up another orphanage or someplace or 5 years ago. Campus. So I think it was at 200,000 a year and he refuses to make more, but yet on papers with 5-point, whatever billion, and he donates of all of it is incredible all of it.

If you’re like well shouldn’t you save some cash reserves, all of it. He just keeps double. Downing are doubling down on growing the business and then getting all the profits away. So I’m just trying to give me examples of the stuff the guy did. He felt like obamacare was wrong because it required american businesses to supply their employees with 20 different contraceptive methods to the employee required, including abortion right. But it is it required that business owners work supposed to supply their employees with 20 different contraceptive methods, including abortion. So he realized that nobody else had the testicular fortitude to actually do it, and so he went ahead and agreed to pay 1.3 million dollars per day and finds every single day because he doesn’t care. His entire best business conferences cause is to lead people to christ. That’s the only reason he’s doing it. So back to the question you asked:how should I incorporate christ? My whole thing is david. Green is next level like that, guy is, is awesome and so I can’t even relate to how awesome he is like I I was around that guy for lunch and I’m. Like are you kidding me? We wasn’t of the whole day. He takes us to lunch in a super, beat up jeep and I’m like thinking to myself thing myself like hey, you know what does jeeps, probably the oldest eve I’ve ever been in its probably and I said:hey.

What’s up with the jeep. So, it’s paid for I’m, just like you’re, a billionaire you’re thinking like a jet like a helicopter like a mercedes like a limo like a and you know, you’re thinking he’s like it it’s paid for so then I thought well, can I ask you why don’t you to get your new car? Is it? What is there? People played all around the world, they don’t have any cars and we donate to those people in the day, the orphanage and after a way to get there and back many buses for the kids. A lot of sex slavery, stuff going on I just i, want to help as many people in if I have a nice car I can’t help those kids. So that’s that’s my focus and he’s not screwing around I mean we have to see us. We go to see us for lunch. Every weight, waitress every waiter, every person knows his name and they know here comes the beat up jeep and guess what he did with it did it do you think he’s a good tipper? Yes, because he wants people to act. He wants his life to be a baby, be tracked. He doesn’t want to have to pass out attract. So he went to ask you know. Why are you always so positive? What’s the logic behind your hope? Why are you the light in the darkness and then he gets to say have I told you about jesus he. Actually. This is something he talks about he’s actually trying to convert all of his employees to christianity.

So he actually said. I would like to know that we have brought as many people to know christ as he possibly can of hobby lobby. We hope to continue just to just to grow a cup week. We hope to continue to just grow our company as long as there’s someone on this earth that doesn’t know jesus christ, we have a job to do so. He literally chairs christ. Wasn’t he doesn’t care about the boundaries of all you shouldn’t share christ you’re employed, that’s his entire reason nathan. If you’re going to go out there and think about incorporating christ into your marketing, I mean truett cathy, the founder of chick-fil-a. These guys are next level, so we can back for the break I’m going to talk about weaving in christ or christianity or whatever your faith is in your business cuz. If you’re going to do it, are you got to go all in all in crazy, crazy, over-the-top all i, remember my days back in the drawer room to the true, like the temple of doom over well with the couch that try to consume my hope for the future that I can pursue. What I can conclude that you have what it takes if you want it, youtube fsu win today is your day, and now is your time fitness in is always dominate. Cuz I will not lose. We are planning to the best business conferences scoreboard. The truth he is my mentor like my yo dude, show me the post like i. Wasn’t your rotation go back to the drive time to show on your radio today we are answering questions that are flying in from drivers all around the world and we have nathan who cleans carpets, who asks a fairly deep question and on the show day we have marshall morris to use the amazon best-selling co-author the book start. Here we have eric check 3 on business coach in minecraft, wife, I’m 17 years. Vanessa is here to answer your question so chubby further.

Do we need the question one more time I wrote in it said:could you do it show on the right way, like chick-fil-a or hobby lobby, to incorporate faith into business for the wrong way like the business that uses christian symbols to hide their bad work? I, don’t like seeing a van that says their faith. Is their provider and get the van is broken down and beat up I never want to hide behind my faith. I want my work to be so good on its own that people might ask about my face, but listening to the podcast I’m, seeing examples that I do admire a business it of people or businesses incorporating faith subtly. How did those businesses get there and what other businesses have done it wrong and failed? We’re going to focus on hobby lobby, so hobby lobby was started by david green with $600 rehab, 600 bucks, and there were people who had cerebral palsy. It’s where your body doesn’t work, but you’re mine does, and so he wanted to find a way to provide jobs with people who had cerebral palsy.

Did you get the idea here so he decided to take reclaimed or if it’s just misty fences, privacy fences they had collapsed or weren’t good anymore and to bring them back to cut them into pieces and to teach people with cerebral palsy how to make frames. So he could create a job for them. Then people started buying these. He opened the store, so he could sell the sell. Those things sell, those frames people started buying those frames, and then he thought what’s another way that I can provide jobs for people that can’t help themselves, because that’s the message of christ write, the message of christ is to help those who cannot help themselves and to share chrysler right. That’s the idea, so he decides to go out there and continue doing this over and over and over then he starts to think. How can I donate more money to christian cause? 3 tries to get a better deal on the best business conferences products he’s the first guy to ship. We, when you paint when you paint you paint on more super we paying on we paint on a canvas canvas. Yes, he’s the first one to think about putting all the canvases back-to-back and shipping them outside of the box.

Cuz reduce the shipping cost, so we could donate more money to christ he’s the first guy to think about buying second generation offices. So every hobby lobby was opened and a former walmart in a walmart used to be small. Then they move to supercenters and they left these old buildings, and you say goodbye to know:cheap thrills. Wilson office there, so we can donate more money. I mean everything he does. He does it every christmas. He does a full-page ad leading people to christ. He rejected obamacare because he fill out plug that nobody else was in a financially good spot where they could do it. If I can other people just go out of business, so he decided to personally fight back against obamacare and was willing to pay a 1.3 million dollar per day, fine to fight against a mandated abortions that the other companies were supposed to pay for a he believes and trying to convert him ways to christianity in the often does. He believes that the best business conferences customer will absolutely judge you and your relationship with christ based upon what you do during the work day, so I’m just I’m just throwing this out here for you cuz, it’s nathan. This is a big question. Chuck. Can you read the notable quotable from andrew carnegie here, .5 I want to cover for nathan’s. Andrew carnegie was definitely not a christian, but he has some words of wisdom here that it would help you.

He says. As I grow older I pay less attention to what men say:i just watch what they do. So for me, you look just as example:i am a christian i, believe, in christ, but I would never put like a big sus on my van cuz I’m, going to cut you off in traffic and I mean side pride put on there. Like you know, I’m sorry is the the the prototype he’s example is the ideal I’m a man bear pig and you should go find a church. I would never want to be the head of a church because I frankly, my manbearpig I’m, very good at business and I’m kind of funny. But that’s all I got I’m, not really. You know a religious leader and i. Don’t want to be one because I would hate for you to judge me and judge of christ based on me. Cuz I’m, a man bear pig I mean I’m just telling you this. If you’re in my office-and you push me over that line and I warned, you and I warned you in the morning I’ll fire, you I’m not going to like pray with you, I wouldn’t fire. You know my wife would somehow fire you and pray with you. So what vanessa to chime in on this one cuz your faith, we’ve been in faith into the business nathan wants to know what the balance, what best business conferences advice would you have reminder? I just worry about putting nick foods on a van unless you’re all out, okay, so again, I guess if you look at david green and everything falls in line after bringing someone to cry so I think that if you truly believe your religion-and you truly truly have this relationship with jesus-even know that that those who have not accepted jesus are going to go to hell like how could you not done with your obligation to tell him now I agree if you are not living your life correctly, it’s going to be, it’s can be a turn-off to people and push them away.

So I think that you need to come back to your relationship with jesus and know how how strong that is or I guess each other people have different favorite, stuff and tired approach to driving any type of christian references on my vehicle marshall. What do you see this a lot of times our clients from 3:15 people that have called their business like integrity, roofing and integrity? Plumbing has christian brothers plumbing integrity is a differentiator and then their work is just terrible. Can you talk to me about this at hobby, lobby and chick-fil-a? They have a really high standard. I mean the food quality is awesome because david green he’s doing it for the right reason, so he actually is genuine and he has a good relationship if you’re just doing it to manipulate best business conferences people right like that’s not going to work. I know you seen how fast your fast food line is. One of our team members was telling me because you previously worked at chick-fil-a, but the one here in tulsa had the second highest in the country for number of cars service. During the lunch hour is it was called christian popeye’s chicken you’d be like that place.

Sucks I bet the religion sucks too cuz. It’s not good right. You know. One thing I’ve noticed is like you’ve got to use a filter to run your decisions through and dodgers owner always talks about the filters. What’s best for the business, it sounds like david green. His filter is what’s best for the faith yeah so for nathan going to make that decision. What is your filter put that filter in place and always run everything through it? I just I know for me personally, I could not put an exhaust on my car because you’d be like that. Guy has the worst driver ever, and what is he listening to is. Is that is that french montana, who is I’m, always listening to do beats a new music and i? Would hate for anybody to I just would say:i just go. Go to church, find a church find a pastor. You can believe in find a church, but read that bible that bibles the real deal and then I would encourage you to go to sibley chiropractic cuz. You want to align your spine all the time with your body, your face with your business, align your spine all the time simply chiropractic, simply chiropractic.

That’s dr. John sibley,. He said it again:it’s dr. John, sibley., com, tulsa number, one chiropractor, the man, the myth, the dude with no attitude dr., john, sibley, zumba fitness is always down. Is the true thought I’d make that excuse I’ll, be up to the school board the truth into a like my yoda tribe, nation, you just missed out on the marshall morris shimmy shimmy shake right now, you totally called me out might be the dd co-authored amazon best-selling book start here, but he can do the shimmy shack I might do that at the conference, if you’re a client right there and you were working with marcia right now, if you’re one of the people that is blessed to work at marshall morris, as your coach were once you do next time, you see me see you in the shimmy shake the previous segments read this question will get the final teaching points for an a3 nathan’s question question on the right way like chick-fil-a or hobby. Lobby to incorporate faith into business with the wrong way like the business that uses christian symbols to hide their bad work. Okay, so, let’s just get into it. Okay, so here we go play number five best business conferences customers, employees in humanity will judge you based upon what you do so, whether you’re a christian or not with your muslim or not with your jewish you’re, not with your whatever your faith is, you can say whatever you want to say, but andrew carnegie, he was an atheist chimed in and says as I grow, older I pay less attention to what men say:i just watch what they do. So just let the scoreboard be the truth and I’ll just said you don’t even care at all about the religious beliefs of chick-fil-a truett cathy. You wouldn’t care at all. Nor would you care about the religious beliefs of david green, the founder of hobby lobby. If they were not successful, you wouldn’t care what howard schultz the ceo of starbucks has to think about the gay and lesbian agenda and let starbucks was real.

So money is a magnifier, but only if you have money to magnify so step, one I would recommend your that you are fruitful and then x is you want to let your work be your worship I need. My wife does a great job of the summit vanessa chime in on this, but colossians 3, 2324 states, whatever you do work at it with all your heart as working for the lord, not for human masters. Since you know that you’ll receive an inheritance from the lord, it is the lord christ. You are serving vanessa. What’s your mindset when you maybe have to fire somebody make a difficult decision to have a tough conversation with an employee as it relates to letting your work, be your worship i. Think I always want to know that I’m doing right by that person. So even if we’re having to let someone go it’s literally because maybe some choices they have made and I can go and have a face-to-face conversation or or maybe it’s just. It really is not a good fit and I know in my heart. If it’s not a good fit, it would actually hurt that person to try to keep them around. God has another place for them. So I think that if you just have a clear best business conferences conscience, I know that you’re doing the right thing you know, god is also looking out for that. Other person and, like you said, I mean if someone will, let me play with them. I will pray with them, because I I know that god has a plan for them and lasting about money being a magnifier i. Think, like you said, if you can prove yourself in the work that you’re doing you know, people are going to see that and they’re going to come to.

You want to know what you’re doing and why you’re different I think that you know truett, cathy and david green over the years. That’s why we know about them right. I mean yes, now that you just accessible to get the money followed, but they they had success by doing the right thing over and over and over again and brought him I’m, not going to argue with you on the radio show. But I will say this there’s a lot of you are great christians. They don’t make a performa a great christian to work hard, but they don’t have brandon because they can have success in their business. Give him a platform in the people are going to ask. What are you doing but I agree with that. I agree that what I’m just clarifying is a lot of people feel like i, see it all the time you’ll I can’t cause I go to church on wednesday and sunday and I do what’s right, I’m going to be successful and I’m, trying to tell you you’re out there competing i, know best business conferences people who are the shadiest people in the world who make millions of dollars in live to be late, 80s guy, who was so successful so wealthy, so rich and probably the worst human I’ve ever been around and he made all of his money by screwing people. And then you hear stories about the marriott hotel chain, where this is a mormon family who built the marriott hotel chain, i, put a bible and the book of mormon in every hotel room because they did it. The right way so I’m telling you you could be super shady and win, and you could be super super awesome and lose or vice versa. So you got to get the business right and then that will magnify we got to get the business right. Now. Also recommend you don’t give up your soul in exchange. For the morning, though, your business I’ll give you that platform, I’m saying first you’ve got to do the business right.

Like you said, cuz, it’s not automatically a platform. If you’re, if you’re failing it’s, not a platform, get directions to build it up, and now it’s giving you that platform, marshall I’m going to read you a long form go to recordable and it’s a business coach, not a religious expert I want you to sit through it and break it down. Okay, so here we go. This is from a book called the bible james 14 through 26. What does it profit? My brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works, can faith save him if a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them:depart in peace, be warmed and filled, but you do not give them the things that they are needed for their body. What does it profit? Profit. That’s also faith by itself. If it does not have works, is dead. So a lot of people that are willing to do anything to make a profit anything and they will screw over anybody to make a best business conferences profit, and so, if you’re, not there listening the teaching moment, I want to communicate marshall break this. If you work, really great clients evolves work. If you want to go to bed, can you speak to this idea of willing to compromise any ethical standard to make a dollar? What happens is? Is warren buffett says it takes 20 years to build a reputation in only 5 minutes to lose it? If you think about that, then you’ll do business differently, and this is what you’re talking about is.

If you’re fighting tooth-and-nail to earn a profit with high moral high ethics, then your success will be sustainable long-term. We talked about the quote:where money earned through get rich quick schemes soon dwindles away. Proverbs 13:11 is what marshalls referencing right, and so what you have to understand is that it’s going to circle back, it is go going to come in, get you, but if you hold yourself to the high standards, like many of my clients are all doing their just looking on there doing a great job, we will talk to the folks what williams contracting dustin, so he does general contracting and construction management for all kinds of different entities. He builds jails, you build schools, but he has a high moral value and that he’s not going to treat his subcontractors poorly he’s not going to talk down at people he’s not going to do that and he’s a man of faith. So we actually talked about his different different goals in is meta time. Actually, during our meeting, people ask, though hey I’m. Looking to add on to my building, things are going well, I want to add on with build a building, a commercial building who committed without reservation. We can say and williams best business conferences contracting does a great job by the way the website as well dash khan.Com, know vanessa I want for you, I don’t have to pray. This final note notable quotable your trip, blind side, my wife, 1st timothy, 5 8 and, let’s see if she can get out of the corner that were in a painter into their relatives and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Say you. How does that say you responsibility and if you are marrying a spouse, can you guys are too? It is your response. What is my responsibility to take care of my husband in the ways I can’t and my children is clay’s responsibility. It is his obligation to take care of heart, our children and his wife, and, if you’re not willing to do that, don’t get married and start a family. You can wear it on his truck. Did you know you love your wife you’re, a hard-working dude we’re getting all these fuzzy conversations right now, hopefully will get into more technical things and future shows but hey? What’s the balance of faith in business? What’s your take on this business coach man i, like what we have been saying. Is that put your works first? Do it for the right reasons and then have your platform so build it from the correct one of you:don’t go. If you go out there and you’re trying to show your platform before you earned it you’re going to look like a fool. People are going to see right through you, so go out there and do it the right way build a business with the right values and then you can launch your own platform and try to change the best business conferences world. Do you know over there at rc, auto specialists, these guys for over 80 years, combined experience, maintaining ford automobile suspension, the alignment, the transmission to fleet, service diarrhea, all under one roof, that’s rc, auto specialists, it’s a christian owned business. Great guys are great people roy the owners of as a friend who is the partner good guy. His website is rc auto specialists. Comets rc auto specialists,, and he is a christian business owner and, if you’ve, yet to attend shops. Book book, your tickets today for the june 22nd and 23rd workshop I’ll drive time. Show, 32180 drive time show on opening the old catch. The broadcast motivate yourself


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