Clay Clark, Dr. Breck, and Steve Currington share why you need to stop praying for money and you just need to go out there and earn it. They also share why you must also put your smartphone down to make your life profound.
NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “On the sixth day they are to prepare what they bring in, and that is to be twice as much as they gather on the other days.” – Exodus 16:5
NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “When you’re around enormously successful people you realize their success isn’t an accident – it’s about work.” – Ryan Tedder (Ryan Benjamin Tedder (born June 26, 1979) is an American singer, songwriter, musician, and record producer. As well as being the lead vocalist of the pop rock band OneRepublic, he has an independent career as a songwriter and producer for various artists, including Adele, Backstreet Boys, Beyoncé, Big Time Rush, Camila Cabello, Charlie Puth, Demi Lovato, Ed Sheeran, Foster the People, Hailee Steinfeld, Hilary Duff, Jennifer Lopez, Jonas Brothers, Jordin Sparks, Kelly Clarkson, Leona Lewis, Lil Nas X, Logic, Maroon 5, MØ, One Direction, Paul McCartney, Pink, Selena Gomez, Shawn Mendes, Taylor Swift, U2, Westlife, and Zedd.)
AMPLE EXAMPLE – Donald Trump on Work Ethic – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4XfyYFa9yo&t=512s
DEFINITION – An “Ask Hole” is a person who constantly asks for your advice (this is not you), yet always does the opposite of what you told them.
Fair Labor Standards Act – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act_of_1938
NOTABLE QUOTABLE – “There’s no such thing as work-life balance, we’d love to have more women moving up faster,” Mr. Welch said. “But they’ve got to make the tough choices and know the consequences of each one.” – Jack Welch (The former CEO of GE who grew the company by 4,000%)
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (00:03):
Work as though it relies 100% on you love it. And you pray as though it relies 100% on God.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Some shows don’t need a celebrity in the writer to introduce a show, but this show down to man, eight kids co-created by two different women, 13 moat time, million dollar businesses, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the [inaudible].
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (00:48):
Yes, yes, yes. And yes. Now thrive nation today’s show is it’s gonna offend, um, none of our listeners, but all, all of the friends of our listeners, the people, you know, be careful about who’s listening to this show with you right now, because they’re going to get upset. And I thought I needed to have a person with more credibility to tell you the message that I’m about to tell you. And so I’m going to play some sound clips here. And when I play the sound clips, I want you to understand that I don’t get, uh, um, jollies by irritating you I’m trying to help you. So I want everybody to do a Google search. We’ll actually do a YouTube search for it’s, not for sale. Do a YouTube search for the phrase. It’s not for sale. Bishop TD Jakes. Everybody do a search right now on YouTube for it’s not for sale. Bishop TD Jakes. And I want you to go to the 28 minute Mark with me, the 28 minute Mark with me. I’m going there right now. Okay? And I’m going to hit play. And when I hit play, I want you to understand, I am not trying to make you mad, but you’re going to get mad. So let me hit play and just listen to this audio
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Muddy. And it has infected and affected the church to most of the time. When you get people coming up for prayer, it’s always about money. Our mentality is we need a miracle. I believe in God for a car. I believe in God for a house. I believe in God for a coat. I believe in God for a house. I believe in God to send my kids to private school. I hate to tell you this. There are atheists that send their kids to private school. There are drug dealers that have a car. That’s not a miracle. You don’t need God. You need a good job. You need to come to work. You need to save your money. You get you a car. You don’t need to call on heaven and provoke the angels to get a car. That magical mentality is killing the church. We are asking God for stuff that we can do ourselves. Oh God.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (02:56):
Okay. Now, before you, before you say clay, I, I want to argue with you before it, before you say that before you you’re saying, I thought you were a Christian. I thought this was a Christian show. Hit play. Listen. With more, more fabulous fun from TD Jakes coming down the pike. This is from the 44 minute Mark from his sermon. It’s not for sale. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
God is going for, we got people today who are so busy. Facebook live in bed, not listening. I see people in the hall to call coming to Jesus. Facebook live. How can your soul be crushed by the word tears running down your face. Life changed forever. And you are a producer. There is a time and a place for everything under heaven. You cannot allow these machines to become idols in your life. Cut your phone off, open your heart. Allow the spirit of God. Feel the power of the Holy ghost.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (04:20):
Right? Okay. So let’s talk about this for a second. Let’s let’s look at it from a completely non-religious perspective. He just said, you don’t need God to do the work for you essentially and put your smartphone down to make your life profound. So I need everybody out there to, to just ask yourself right now on a scale of one to 10, if 10 is you are a Holy roller. And what you do is you do nothing. Unless you feel some spiritual epiphany. First that’s a 10. And a one is somebody who you don’t believe in the existence of God. And you’re just going to act in your own strength. I want you to rate yourself on your Holy roller furnace on a scale of one to 10, if 10 is like, Holy roller, woo Shunda. You have to use, you’ve got to have God be somehow involved in everything before you do it.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (05:04):
Or a one is you’re just atheist. You’re agnostic. I want you to rate yourself because I have found that the most successful people that I’ve ever met, who are Christians and not Christians, they all do what they can do in their own strengths. And they believe that serendipity luck, God, divine interruption, divine interaction. They’re going to like, they’re going to let that just take care of itself and not think about it. But I found that people who are not successful, they focus on serendipity luck, virality, randomness. So now that I have irritated some people out there, Steve, I want to get your take on this because you have been, become very successful as the founder of Steve currington.com. You’ve been in the mortgage industry for how long? 15 years. How old were you when you first made a hundred thousand dollars? What year? What, how old were you the first time that you made a hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Uh, think I was 22, 23. And what were you doing at that time? Collecting debt.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (06:05):
This is profound. Somebody should write this down. You were doing what?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I was a debt collector.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (06:12):
Somebody should write this down. How old were you?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
22. I mean, 22, 23. What were you doing? And what were you doing? I was a debt collector.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (06:22):
Somebody out there is praying to make a hundred thousand dollars. Now, at that time, when you were making a hundred thousand dollars, did you drink a lot?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Uh, yeah. Well, yeah. I, I don’t know if I drank as much as I did later in life when I was 22, but when I was started making more money than I started
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (06:40):
Total, total listeners about the time where your, your wife, because the first time you and I met for dinner, you told me this crazy story. I’m like, this cannot be true. Could you, can you share that story? Yeah. About after yeah, she was here, the story, cause now you’re, you’ve been sober for a long time and you’re on the other end of that story. How long have you been sober now?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, I quit drinking again, um, four years ago. Almost four years ago. June of this year. Before years? Yeah, I got it, but Oh four. Yeah. I think I made my last year as a debt collector, I made about 150 collecting debt, but I hated it. I mean, I worked like from basically like eight in the morning, till nine at night. But you did it as a week, but I did it. I hated it.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (07:16):
You hated it, but you did it. Yup. So you, but you I’m just saying at that time, didn’t your wife eventually have to check you in to somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, I kinda, you know, I don’t know this little, um, clear stuff that you can crush up into a powder. I used to play around with a little bit and um, maybe, you know, I kind of do things to the extreme clamming. Some guys buy a Mustang, I buy a Lambo. You know, some people you were doing drugs. Some people drink a coffee, some people do some math. I mean, it’s just whatever your thing is.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (07:47):
But you were on drugs and you were an alcoholic and your did your wife, how did you get sober? What’d she do? Oh, she called the cops on me and your wife turned you into the cops?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah. Yeah. And then she left me and David L. Moss. It was really nice local prison. Well, it’s like beautiful. It’s like beautiful hotel County jail. But it was like
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (08:05):
When your wife, your wife called the cops on you and got you sober. But you were making a hut, even though you weren’t a Christian or weren’t living that way or you weren’t, whatever, you still found a way to make a hundred thousand dollars. Right? I believe in God for it. I welcomed everybody out there right now into the a hundred thousand dollar club. Come on in, come on, come join the club, join, hop in, hop in, hop in the club. This is how we do it. This is how we do, this is how we do what we do. This is what we do. And I’ve interviewed so many super successful people. So many of them, so many super successful people. Right. And what’s interesting is, uh, Jason we’ve interviewed billionaires and millionaires on the show. We just had the billionaire founder of Paychex on the show.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (08:48):
We’ve interviewed the founder of Ritz Carlton, you know, John Maxwell, Seth Goden, the world. Do they, have you noticed they all wake up before everybody else? Yes, they do. So first of all, I, back in the day, I just stayed up. I’m just saying, so them all step number one. If you want to get rich, if you want to get rich, you have to observe this thing called the sixth day principle, the sixth day principle, the sixth day, dr. Breck, please explain to somebody out there who is a Bernie Sanders fan. They went to a college and at that college, they were taught that once you have a degree, right, once you get out of chiropractic school, you just show up and you work about 38 hours a week. Right. And you’d have a lot of life balance and you’ll make a hundred thousand dollars a year. Please explain to the listeners out there, how it really, how that’s a farce. Yeah. That how it really works.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So, I mean, you may be believing that, but that is not at all the case. Uh, we actually spoke recently, um, the other day about how we’re protecting our time and things. And, uh, you know, one of the things I wanted to convey is that it’s very important to protect my personal time, but I didn’t really explain that. You know, what I am doing is still putting in over 60 hours a week, uh, even now, after being in this career for 16 plus years. And so, um, yeah, you still have to hustle. You still have to grind. And the sixth day principle is that you will work six days a week and rest on the Sabbath. You will take one day out of seven and rest recover, rejuvenate, worship the Lord. Thank him for all that. He’s given you and prepare for the next six days that you’re gonna work your butt off. And you’ve got to get up early. You’ve got to, you know, make hay while the sun shines. And, uh, I get up early. I go to bed late. I don’t get a lot of sleep, but I get enough and I keep on grinding. And I think that you’ve got to embrace the grind. You’ve got to love the grind. That’s part of the process. It’s part of the joy. Um, if I don’t have to work for it, then it really wasn’t worth it.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (10:51):
If everybody will open up your Bibles to Genesis and you will read there, you will see where God created the earth in six days and rested on the seventh. He was trying to teach the idea that you work six days and rest on the seventh, but he’s teaching people want to talk about resting on the seventh. They don’t want to talk about working six, right? They’re like, Oh, it’s super important. You observed the Sabbath. It’s really important. It’s about, you’re a workaholic. No, you are actually working. And an anti biblical concept you see in Exodus 16 five, it reads on the sixth day. They are to prepare what they bring in. And that is to be twice as much as they gather. On the other days, he’s teaching an Exodus and Genesis the idea of the six day work week. Um, Jason, you’ve had to help a lot of your clients kind of get into a flow of working hard.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (11:40):
And when you try to explain to an adult man or woman, who’s an entrepreneur, self-employed that they need to work six days or more days, or need to put in more work or get up before 7:00 AM. How that go over. Sometimes I’m typically not well until you can make them realize. Cause one of the best quotes I’ve I’ve learned from you is people learn two ways through pain or through gain. But most of the people, they look at it as, Oh, if I work three days, four days, because I’m the business owner. I dictate that schedule, baby. I am working. Oh yes. And then they have a poverty mindset and they’re not taking advantage of all the other days. I will just say, okay, well look, you’re here and you want to grow. You would have to work 20 hour days. If you’re wanting to work four days a week in order to get to your goal, or you can extend that out a couple hours for a couple of extra days.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (12:28):
I mean, I’ll show you my calendar. Be like, I work for thrive Monday through Thursday, but I’m doing something seven days a week. So let’s talk about this for a second. Let’s say that you are building a wall, a Stonewall, and you need to have a thousand stones put in place in order for the wall to be complete. If you put up one stone a day, it’ll take a thousand days, right? If you do a hundred stones a day, it takes you 10 days, right? Another example, and the agricultural society. If you tilled the soil and you sowed the seeds and you water the seeds and pull the weeds, eventually you’ll have a hard, you’ll have a harvest. But if you don’t actually sell the seeds, you won’t have a harvest, right? So as you get closer to super successful people, the more you’re around super successful people, you’re going to start to see that they have like an insane work ethic.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (13:19):
You’re going to see how hard they work when you’re around enormously successful people. You’re going to start to see how hard they work in a Ryan Tedder, the Grammy award winning artist, who I went to college with an oral Roberts university and who sang at our wedding. He says, when you’re around enormously successful people, you realize their success. Isn’t an accident. It’s about work. Steve, when you pull up to a parking lot, driving your Lamborghini, have you ever heard somebody say directly to you or indirectly about you? It must be nice. Yeah. Have you every day, like every year you filmed people say it like a compliment. You filmed a guy and I don’t want to, uh, give any more details about the video. But you filmed a guy in the Lambros who was offended that you were driving a Lamborghini and you, you filmed him.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (14:06):
And I don’t want to get it all the details, but I can say you filmed him. And he was pissed that you have a Lamborghini and he could not get off of the fact that you are so selfish that you were driving a Lamborghini. He, he said the fact, the mere fact that you own a Lamborghini makes you an asshole. That’s what he said. That’s what he said to you on camera. He said the mere fact. Now let me tell this to you. A lot of people hate people who are rich and all they want to do is bitch. I had a lady the other day. Who’s not a client who wanted to be a client. And she made this statement to me that blew my mind. She wants to be a client, but she’s not. And she says, I’m really excited for you to help me.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (14:45):
However, I just want you to know, I’m not willing to do some of the things you tell me to do. Cause I’m more about, Oh, that’s how she said on the 13 point, assess, she alluded what she thought was unethical. I dove in and I said, I’m sitting here in this very chair on the conference, on the call with her. I said, well, what do you mean? She goes, well, I mean, you know, I know to get rich, people have to make certain compromises. And I said, well, why? Like what? And she said, well, I mean, you know, just some of the stuff you have to just like, watch, she goes just some of the unethical stuff. And I’m like, well, I need to know what that is. She says, well, I’m not willing to fire people who don’t get their jobs done. I mean, I care about families. I’m not like you guys were. And she said, Oh, the other thing I pushed back on is I’m not going to ask people for reviews because I think it should be more organic. I don’t want to pressure people, my customers for reviews. Jason, have you ever heard this before? People say, I don’t want to pressure people.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Oh yeah. I’m like, I didn’t realize asking was pressuring people.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (15:36):
Brett, if you have ever had somebody push back about or express that they are maybe, maybe, maybe Steve, you have somebody who’s insinuated that I am. If somehow I bad person, because I fire people or encourage you to get reviews or somehow I’m unethical because I know how to dominate Google or some sort of,
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Well, yeah, I mean, I can definitely say that I’ve run into people that, uh, you know, when your name comes up, because you’re featured on our little information board because of the show and stuff, and we want to, uh, you know, highlight what you’re doing here. Um, and that you’ve helped me. Um, but yeah, you’re a polarizing individual. And so I did have one patient, two had previously worked for a, for a client of yours and they got fired. And um, I remember, you know, bringing this back to you, didn’t use her name, but you said, yeah, that, that client had to go through their workforce and clean house because there were a lot of people just not doing their job. And I don’t find that to be unethical at all.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (16:28):
We interviewed a Daniel rabbi Lapin who will be featured in my upcoming book, mastermind manuscripts. He’s the top Hebrew skull scholar on the planet right now. And he, this is, this is where he took it. Because remember some people say that if you work six days a week, it’s unethical, right? He actually, this is what’s crazy. This is, I mean, this is next level. And you, everybody needs to do a search today for the show. I’ll put a link to the show on the notes here, but everybody needs to do a search for rabbi Daniel Lapin and thrive time show. And you need to hear this show. He actually says that it is unethical unethical, and it is an abomination to go on an extended vacation while wanting to become successful. He said that he actually believes it is a non-biblical idea to go on extended vacations while a while trying to become successful.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (17:17):
He said because he, he, he, he feels as though you’re mocking God to go out there and say that you’re a Christian or a Jewish believer, and to go out there and say that you believe those things. And then to work five days a week, he says, it’s unethical. Like he actually says, if you’re a Christian or a Jewish person, you have to work six days a week. And it’s unethical to pray for money and to be working five days a week. I mean, he takes it that far. Right? And, and so I wanted to cue up a man who, uh, is certainly not the leader of a faith. This is president Donald Trump being interviewed on Larry King, talking about work ethic. Let me keep this separate from early in the morning to late. I don’t want to go here we go here. And it was just one of those things.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (18:00):
It wasn’t work, but I always heard you have to work, work, work and, or not working at this. No, because look, I work very hard from early in the morning to let, and even I don’t want to go home and have to work at a relationship. I mean, that’s it a relationship we have to work at it in my opinion, doesn’t work. So maybe I’m wrong. Do cook. I cook. Sometimes he and his wife were being interviewed. I’m not saying I endorse his. And again, this guy has been divorced multiple times. Okay. So I’m just, but I want to get to the part about work ethic
Speaker 5 (18:24):
When we stay home and very something very fast. And you know, but we are out most of the time. So I don’t really have time to cook.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (18:33):
What does it like to have everything economically by that? I mean, you could down fifth Avenue looking at a window, like something, you know, you can buy it. What’s it like any financial?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yes. But you don’t, you know, uh, I grew up, you always, you know, taking care of the money. You always, you’re not like a big spender. And you saying like, okay, I will buy it. Even if I don’t like it for a hundred percent, you know, you really need to love it that you buy.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (19:02):
So they’re talking about, they have money now to buy whatever they want to buy, because he works from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to bed. And I’m not saying that everybody out there has to be a billionaire, but if you want to be a billionaire, the worst thing you could possibly do is listen to the lyrics of Bruno Mars. This song, I want to be a billionaire because that’s a hundred percent not how it’s a hundred percent, how not to become a billionaire. And he, Bruno Mars is a hardworking guy. And it’s just a lighthearted song. Right. But you don’t just want to be a billionaire and people out there say, this is what you, you, you made this comment yesterday on the show that we recorded. You said diligence is not what you said something awesome. Oh, um, cause we were talking about it was great.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (19:44):
You, what was the past? You said, you said that your diligence, you, you don’t need to be diligent about being, having a diligent mindset. You need to be diligent about the work, right? Yeah. Cause most people, uh, what was it? A God blesses the hand of the diligence. Some people think that, Oh, if I diligently pray about this, that’s where my roar comes from. But the reward comes from diligently, doing the things you need to do to, in order to get paid as a non Christian, it’s almost humorous to you to watch Christian people pray diligently and not do the work. This is me off so bad. I’m like, I don’t under, I don’t understand it. Like I love the fact that you can believe in something to make you a better person. That’s great. And you’ve got a Christian. No, but you’ve given me a lot of scripture that I, I hear it.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (20:25):
I’m like, Oh, that makes sense. If you apply it the way that I feel like you should apply placed Christians who are diligently praying, and they’re not actually working. Right. You’ve seen this and there’s a non Christian. I just want you to know. The worst thing that we can do as a Christian is to, is to, uh, profess Christianity and to go out and deny our faith with our lifestyle. That’s like the worst thing we can do is to go, thanks. I am a Christian, do it. Yes. Woo. I do it. Yes. And then, and then not actually work hard. Aren’t proxy just pushes people away. And I would say all of us, myself included, we can all improve. But the word is the worst thing. I see it. Is it because we’re in a capitalistic society is to see people praying. I mean, you see this at Rama at ORU, you see it at any mega church, any church, anywhere. Great churches, great pastors. And there’s people in the congregation who get the message twisted. Even though they’re preaching from the word and Raymond does a great job or you does a great job. You see people that go, Oh man, that last sermon I know it was for me. And I’m, I’m going to, this is my year of abundance, 20, 20, my year of abundance. Let me keep this audio. This is Trump explaining his work ethic on Larry King
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Together. I don’t think he’s control frequency.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (21:34):
Does he bring work home?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yeah, sometimes, but he’s working all the time. You know, Saturday, Sundays, he’s playing golf. He’s working all the time. You know, it’s his passion. He loves it. It doesn’t bother me. I don’t want to change him. I don’t want, you know, to say, come home and you know, be with me. I don’t want to change him. I want to give him a space. And I think that’s very important in the room.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (22:02):
It told me the one thing that troubled you about marriage was the feeling that you have to give up some of yourself that you can’t be the workaholic you are because of the demands of the nature of a relationship. I don’t consider myself a workaholic. I mean, I work, but it’s not work. It’s like you. I mean, I love what I do. So it’s not all the work. It’s not like work. Work to me is going on a two week vacation. There it is. See, he just said, work to me. He’s going on a two week vacation. This is a hundred percent how I feel. And I’m not saying you have to feel this way. I’m just saying don’t envy me and my success. And then be unwilling to do what I tell you. If you do that, we talked about the show yesterday. Jason was a powerful show.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (22:42):
We talked about this phenomenon, which I have coined being an ask hole. Now an ask hole is an interesting person, Steve, because the person who was an asshole, what they do is they always ask for advice. Yet. They always do the opposite of that advice. They ask for advice, Steve UCS, with realtors all the time that reach out to you for advice because they see you doing a ton of loans and they go, could you coach me? And you’re, you’re not a real estate coach. And you’ll say, sure, I’ll do it for free. I will help you. All I would ask is that you would refer me loans and clients, right? As a realtor, if you will, if you’ll refer me, I’ll coach you. Yeah. I’ve seen you do this. And what percentage of the time do the people ask you for help? And then they do.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (23:25):
Then they go out and do exactly the opposite of the advice you give them 100%. It’s so sad. I have a good friend that runs a very successful business. And he says the best clients that he has pay really, really good money for the best advice. And they don’t take any of it. Wow. Now let me jump. Which means why they keep hiring him. Keep coming back. Now, let me, let me queue this up real quick. I want you to hear this audio because when and I play this audio, somebody is going to be rocked at their core. So I want you to just listen to this audio first.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So Jesus who is exceptional is having a conversation with ordinary and exceptional and ordinary always have a conflict. Anytime exceptional people dwell in the midst of ordinary thinking. People there’s always been a big conflict. Jason,
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (24:22):
I want to have more than 160 clients because there’s a certain amount of conflict that you are willing to put yourself through. So past 160, there’s not there. There’s more time that’s taken away from you to where it makes managing the original one 60 relationships a lot harder. And I would say this too, I legitimately like, and you know this, I like working with guys like Steve Currington and dr. Breck. Yeah, but what people do I not like working with the polar opposites that people who call in and have a fringe business idea that they are then going to give up to God and do nothing with hoping it’s successful. This is what happens. We had somebody the other day who drove by the land we just bought. And they heard from another thriver that we’re building a Disneyland of, of entrepreneur entrepreneurs, which has no, no secrets what I’m doing.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (25:11):
And so it’s basically 39 acres. It’s got a beautiful trees on it and we’re going to build a Disneyland for entrepreneurs. I mean, it’s gonna be a place where you’ll come to a workshop and we’re going to, at the end of the workshops, we’re gonna be like bonfires and stuff. We might have a paint ball tournament with Thrivers. Are you going to do like big, giant fence? Like Michael Jackson did where it says never seriously. I mean, our Thrivers want to have some fun. So we’re thinking about doing is doing the conference on Friday and Saturday. But Friday when the conference ends at 3:00 PM, having like a paint ball tournament for a chance to win a thousand bucks. I mean the cool stuff, you know what I mean? And we’re going to build a Disneyland for entrepreneurs. And they said, Hey, could you help me with my business and their business?
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (25:51):
I won’t mention what their company is or what it does, but we did a 13 point assessment and they’re unwilling to put in the work. And so I just pointed out, um, I don’t think it’s going to be a good deal. And they said, what do you mean? This is my money not good. And I said, you know, you’re a good person, but you’re they go? Cause they, they, they attacked me twice on the assessment. Cause they say, what time did you wake up today? And I said, I always wake up at three. And they said, why? I said, why go to bed at nine? So I sleep in six hours and they said, well, yeah, but what about your family? Don’t you care about your family? They said that while they’re on an assessment, trying to, I go, I do, but I’m, I don’t spend a lot of time with my wife at 11. O’clock watching TV or 10 o’clock watching TV and I come home and my phone’s off at four o’clock every afternoon. And I spend that time undivided with my wife and my kids. So, um, but they, they just couldn’t get off the idea that I was, um, not spending enough time with my family. Right. I mean, Brett could be you, you had kind of a hot take
Speaker 4 (26:52):
They’re about work ethic. Well, yeah. So one of the things that, uh, you know, TD Jakes, uh, kind of brought to mind was a quote that I heard a long time ago. And that was, you know, pray as though it all depends on God and then work as though it all depends on you. And I don’t know who that with, but if you, you know, if you are working, like, it all depends on you, but at the same time, and I’m a Christian at the same time, you’re praying as though it all depends on God, then the two come together and it explodes. So you’ve got a synergy there where God is blessing the doing, but you have to be doing, you can’t just be sitting. Uh, so I actually heard some, some guys talking about the idea that we put on our Christian armor and we’re all geared up and we’d go nowhere with it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You know? So we put our pants on and we don’t have anywhere to go. And it’s like, no, you put your pants on, you put your armor on, you put your Cape on and you leave the house to go be active. You got to go do. And so, you know, that’s one of those things. And like you were just talking about the time that you spend watching TV, the time that your face is in your phone, that is not quality time. And so, so many people are spending time, just vegging out in front of the TV or on the phone. Um, and yeah, they may be in the same room, but they’re not spending time together. So
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (27:58):
I’m going to cue up this audio of TD Jakes and I’m gonna play the Trump, uh, audio. I want you to, I want everyone to listen, to listen to the words that TD Jakes is saying here, folks, Jesus, who is exceptional is having a conversation with ordinary and exceptional and ordinary always have a conflict. Didn’t say sometimes, always, always. So the reason why I don’t want to work with more than 160 clients is that I am exceptional at what I do. I am the exception. And then we live in a culture where 96% of businesses fail. And our average client grows by more than 35%. Thus by just definition. I am exceptional. Jason is exceptional. Now we’re not bragging. It’s just a scoreboard thing. Dr. Breck is an exceptional chiropractor. Most chiropractors Breck. I’m sure you’ve seen this. They start. And then they go out of business. Yeah. Steve, most mortgage brokers, most mortgage bankers. Don’t actually ever close loans, right? Correct. Most real estate agents. Don’t close wounds. So we are exceptional. Not by not, not bragging. I’m just saying based on the definition we are exceptional. All right, Steve, you got a hot take.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Let’s say is I think a lot when you limit your client base to one 60 of the, one of the biggest things that I’ve seen you avoid when it comes to clients is not that they’re bad people, but people that are emotional about business, they’re very high. They’re very high emotion, urgent. They make decisions, emotional decision based on emotion.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (29:31):
Can you go into the bathroom? And I have a something written on the bathroom. Can you read some, I think I have some quotes written on the bathroom. You can use the megaphone to shout at us there. I think I have some quotes written in the, on the bathroom. Uh, and the, and the net there next to the shower. I think I do. Maybe, maybe I don’t. Let’s see if he finds it. Do you see it, Steve? Are there any quotes written there in the bathroom? Maybe not. Are there any quotes there?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (29:57):
Avoid people who are what? Say it again. Read it, read it one more time. I don’t think somebody can.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (30:07):
Okay. Thank you, Steve. So I don’t want to be around. People are perpetually distracted, chronically late, always emotional cause they’ll wreck your life. They will. I mean, if you’re a consultant, they will literally wreck your life. Jason, have you ever had a client that’s like that? Just urgent. Emotional. They’re never, they can never focus. I mean, how brutal of an experience could that be? It’s brutal because it affects the meeting. It will bleed over into other meetings. You’ll be with another client and your phone will be going off because this person’s lost their mind. And then it’ll even bleed over into your personal life. Because at two o’clock in the morning, on the weekend, when you’re supposed to be, you know, at home asleep with your wonderful wife, this person’s having a existential crisis and you’re the only person that can fix it. And then that person knows other people like that because your network is your net worth.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (30:48):
So I only take on exceptional clients because Steve’s gotten to become friends with Charles Cola and you’ve got a chance to spend time with Clint Howard and, and meet him. And when you meet these people, I mean, have you noticed that you guys are all pretty much similar? Yeah. It’s really refreshing. Cause it’s a very few rooms that you walk into where you feel right at home. Right? Dr. Brooke and I found that we both liked to snuggle. Oh wow. Let me play the rest of the body. Let me play. Let me play the rest of this audio here. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Anytime exceptional people dwell in the midst of ordinary thinking. People always vote a big conflict. Don’t try to get along with people who think ordinary. When you know, God made you to think exceptional.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (31:34):
Don’t even try to reason with them. If you’re out there saying I don’t want to work six days a week in order to have success, get off our podcast. I don’t want to try to grow my subscriber base. What? Yes, I don’t want to grow my subscriber base with a, uh, an audience filled with people that are idiots. If you’re not going to implement, stop listening. This is not an entertainment thing. This is about a life changing thing.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Even try to reason with them. Don’t try to argue with them, trying to straighten them out. We speak two different languages. You are speaking ordinary. And I am talking exceptional. Exceptional people make some noise.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (32:19):
There it is. Now we go back to Donald Trump on Larry King. This is him talking about his work ethic. I mean,
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I love what I do. So it’s not all the work. It’s not like work.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (32:29):
Jimmy is going on a two week vacation. If somebody says you have to go away for two weeks, you’re going to Africa on a Safari and there’s not going to be any phones. You know what get me out of here. Right? So to me like
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That would be work. But what millennia is so good at, we just have this natural relationship. It’s like,
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (32:46):
So all I would say is that there’s an entrepreneur out there and I hate, I hate to see it. I hate this. I hate to see it. This is my final little tip. I hate, I hate to see this, Steve, Steve, you’ve seen this, um, people that don’t work together like my wife and I do. Can you please explain the working relationship of my wife and how you’ve seen it? Cause you’ve seen it for the last five years. How do we work together? How do we not work together?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
She does the money and the bills. And she, um, I see you go to her for every big decision or any decision or emotional. Like for example, we talked about, um, Emma, my 17 year old hiring your daughter. Yeah. Her coming to shadow and to work at thrive. And so clay is very good about saying I have no emotions anymore. I don’t care. But you guys might go talk to Vanessa. So a hundred percent. Yeah. So you, you guys run respect each other, run things by each other. She handles
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (33:45):
What she’s responsible for. And she knows that
Speaker 3 (33:47):
You’re going to handle, um, the work and the, the Mark
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (33:51):
Side of the business. So here’s what I see a lot of couples doing in their business. This is why I see. So I’m writing this book, the mastermind manuscripts, this new book, it’s going to be a bestseller. You guys are going to love it. I mean, it’s five years of interviews with the world’s most successful people, all in one book. I mean, it is awesome. Okay. So it’s like a million dollar gift to the world. That’s going to be yours. You’re going to love it. I have not gone to my wife and said, Hey,
Speaker 3 (34:12):
What do you think about the title? Hey, what do you think about the cover? Right? Who, who should be in it? What do you think? Cause
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (34:19):
He’s not an expert in that area. She is an expert in being a great mom, finances, cheerleading, but I’m not going to go to her and say,
Speaker 3 (34:29):
How do you think I should lay out the pages
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (34:30):
Nor is she going to show up and give me all unwanted feedback about the pages. This is what I see a lot of couples do. There’ll be a woman who has a very successful company and her husband wants to come to the meetings with her. And he’ll say he with no knowledge of anything, cause he’s not exceptional. He doesn’t know about the business with no knowledge of anything. He’ll say,
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You know, I don’t like that logo. Can we make it green?
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (34:57):
And by the way, I don’t think we should have a thousand words on every page. It’s all cluttered with no knowledge of how search engines work with no knowledge of how call cold calling works with no knowledge of branding, with no knowledge of calendars and to do lists and time management and workflows and scripts and checklists with no knowledge of accounting, he wants to show up and give ordinary advice to somebody who is exceptional Breck. Have you ever seen this phenomenon? Absolutely. And it can be absolutely major thing happens in my office. So, you know, we’ll will have a couple that comes in and uh, you know, one of the other is the patient, but then the spouse is now giving their unsolicited advice, um, in, in regards to their health condition that I just uncovered and diagnosed and know how to correct. But yet they’re not going to because their spouse says something different.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (35:45):
Uh, Jason, have you ever seen this happen? Yup. How does it, how does it normally manifest itself? It’s where you H tell us about, because I think there’s somebody out there this is helping. Yeah. So I mean like I’ve had plenty of clients that will they’ll come to the meeting and say, Oh, Hey, is it cool if I bring my spouse because I’m wanting to get them more oil, sorry. Um, they are wanting to be more incorporated with the business. So I feel like it’d be good for them to, you know, kind of shadow our meetings, make sure. So I’ll be going through and I’ll have a client who we’ve been working together for weeks and they’re on the right track. But then the second somebody else who doesn’t get it, who does not have that exceptional mindset, they’re like, wait, we have to get how many pages of content this week. We have to get how many reviews? Oh no, no, no. We were fine before. And then they become that little, uh, do you ever see Lord of the rings? Yes. Grima, Wormtongue the guy who like poisons the King. Cause he’s always whispering his little evils there. They become that person. And then all that great work we’ve done just completely goes off the rails and they start to backslide and it hurts the company. Steve, have you seen this phenomenon or are we the only people who’ve seen it?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah. I don’t even talk to my wife about business because I learned a long time ago that she never agrees with me. So I just don’t like, I’d come home mad because some employee sucked and I told them they sucked and she’d disagree with me. So I’m just like, no, we don’t even like, we’ve been married 18 years. That’s the secret to marriage is I just don’t. And as she worked, she does work in our company, but we don’t interact at all. Like she,
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (37:06):
I think everybody out there feels like they need to be the next chip and Joanna, or they maybe think that my wife and I are chip and Joanna and, and on a show, which has heavily scripted by the way, chip basically does the building and Joanna does the designing and they sort of talk about it in a fun way. And they come up with a design that they both agree on. Right.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
But when the camera’s not running chip, be like
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (37:29):
Screaming at her. No, no, no. They’re a very, they’re a very happy couple. And they turned the camera on it. Now I love you. I know they’re there. They have their eye on the prize. The bigger deal is, you know, if he doesn’t like it or whatever, he’s like, it doesn’t even matter. This is her design. I’ll make it happen. I’m a builder. They work together though. But the statistical probability of marrying somebody who is as good as you are in your industry, that would be like Tom Brady, marrying a receiver who happens to be an attractive female. I mean, it’s just not gonna happen. That would be like,
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Isn’t it something like, I don’t know, 50 to 60 or even 70% of all marriages in a divorce that’s without a business being involved. So you’ve got a hard enough time just trying to keep your marriage together without entering some bull crap from your business. So don’t even like, it’s a phenomenon when someone does marry someone and they work well in business together. But even Donald Trump, you heard millennia. She doesn’t worry about him coming home. She just supports him in what he does. And, and that’s it. And if you’re trying to like find a wife who can like help you in business, no, if you’re
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (38:36):
The man and you’re supposed to be the provider, go provide for the family and keep your marriage happy by keeping that separate my opinion. If you’re a female and you are an entrepreneur already and you marry someone, who’s not, don’t try to change them. Right. I just, I want to make sure, cause I see this Jason as probably the number one source of conflict when working with clients, it’s when their spouse or their best friend is becomes their business partner. And a, the one person is exceptional and it has a great work ethic. And the other person, the other partner, the friend doesn’t, I mean, do you not see this? Yep. It’s a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Then trying to change them, forces that relationship to get caustic real fast. Oh, get a couple that can work together. Well, that’s the unicorn
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (39:21):
Unicorn. I would just tell you again, somebody, someone says, well, clay, I thought you and your wife were together. We have two lanes. So right now the other day, uh, last night my wife tells me, she says, Hey, on the land, we’re going to start putting in that road during this given week. And I said, okay, cool. And she says, and I think we’re going to build a bridge. And I said, we’re building a bridge. What does that cost? And she said, well, we’re going to build the bridge. We’re going to build a brand. But she handles the finances. She knows our budget and I’m going, I like that idea. And you know why I liked that idea because that’s her lane and she knows her budget and she sticks within it. Now on the house or we’re constructing, if you have vaulted ceilings on a, on a house, these not these big houses, Steve, you have, you have like a big, like a seven or 8,000 square foot house. You can make the, the, um, the, the roof line more dramatic the pitch. And do you have a lot of addict space in your house, Steve upstairs? Do you to give me addict space? We have some attic place. Yeah. You have some addict space. And if you wanted to finish it out, could you, I mean, if you went up there, could you make a few more? Can you, can you make thousands extra square feet up there? They didn’t finish it out because we punished the kids by putting him in there.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah. I mean, our house has a finished out third floor. Um, but there’s still some additional attic space we could,
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (40:34):
And there is a, it’s about $20 a square foot right now, ish, to finish out attic. So you, if you, if, if, if for me, I mean, I would just add in wood tile, I would put up sheet rock and painted black, and then I do spray foam painted black up there, but it might incandescent bulbs and bam, there it is. So I’m talking to my wife and I’m going, how much space is up there? And I think there might be like 4,000 square feet. So this room might get four times bigger because that’s all I’m at. That’s all I want, but I’m not giving her any feedback on the entry way on the dining room. It was up to me. It didn’t even have a dining room. I mean, I think the dining room for most people that you eat, you stop to eat. Do you, um, have you noticed that the dining room is the one room that no one goes to most houses
Speaker 4 (41:20):
When we bought our house, that was an issue it’s like, are you sure you want to dining room? I’m like, yes, we’re actually that family who will actually use it because my wife likes to host and she likes to cook and we do. But we’re the exception.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (41:32):
Um, they, they actually started
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Building a lot of really awesome floor plans that don’t include a dining room because it is kind of that room for a lot of people that,
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (41:41):
And then the home office thing have you noticed the home office is the one room where most people don’t do work. It becomes a catch all for kids toys and the clutter room that you can close the doors. It’s the room where you put stuff. It’s where you put the Christmas gifts before you wrap them there in that room. And so it’s the clutter room. So again, I’m not going to sit there and debate with my wife about house designs. She’s not going to debate with me about book layout. So my advice to you as it relates to the marriage thing is find a lane stay in that lane. And if you are an entrepreneur, don’t marry somebody who’s not. And try to convince them to change, to be like you. Right. Right. Steve, can you
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Like backing up a little bit about the working six days? Can you talk a little bit, I mean, I know you’ve told the story about how Henry Ford, um, changed or helped change the 40 hour workweek where previously people that worked at Ford were working, you know, 90, a hundred hours a week or can six days.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (42:33):
Okay. I can’t, I cannot speak to the Ford thing, but I can, I can, uh, share this real quick. And 1938, I’ll put a link to this. There’s a thing called the fair labor standards act of 1938 that’s 1938. And that was created by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And just so we’re clear, FDR was a socialist. I don’t think people realize that he was a socialist. That’s what he was a fan of. He was in favor of socialism. So I’m a socialism. Socialism is, is the, the belief that it is the job of the government to take care of people from the cradle to the grave, like free college free phones. And we distribute wealth as needed to make up for some people who are dominating and some people who are losing, right. So it’s the equivalent of putting ankle weights on LeBron, James. That’s what it’s like.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (43:24):
It’s like, you know, LeBron you’re really killing everybody out there. And so we’re, we’re, we’re going to let you play the game. We’re just taking some of his points and giving them to other players do have fewer points or it would be like, who’s your favorite comedian, Jason? Oh, Rogan’s up there. But right now it’s a Krista Leah. So it’d say crystal, Leah, you’re very good comedian. You’re truly better than your peers. So we’re going to have you read the tooth, you know, 40% of your routine. You have to read a route, a routine that’s not good. So for 40% of your act tonight, you need to read a non-funded routine just to make it fair. Or it’s like dr. Breck, you know, because you’re making a lot of money. We’re going to just raise those taxes up a little bit. And I say a little bit, we’re going to take half your income and give that to the lazy guy who refuses to work.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (44:07):
And we all know that person in our lives, it doesn’t work. And by the way, when you give somebody money who doesn’t work, do they get more motivated to go work some more? No, no, no. So it’s a fundamentally flawed idea, but he, he said, you know, gosh guys, I know that the Bible explains six days as the work week normal. And I know this country, this great American, this great country. I know that the country was founded on the six day work week. I know the pilgrims were working six days a week. I know the founding fathers were working six days a week. I know that the work ethic of this country is what’s made America great. But as a socialist, I feel we should change that all now and established this thing called the 40 hour workweek, where we now are going to make that the normal. And we’re going to kind of look with strong judgment upon any employer who would ask somebody to work more than 40 hours a week. And anybody who works more than 40 hours a week, we’re going to start to kind of look at them as though they’re wrong. We’re going to start to kind of, um, Jason, when you talk to people about your work ethic or that they ask you about, or maybe they just see it, do people question it and kind of wonder if you’re weird. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
All the time. Call it social punishment. Are you, are you weird? You’re gonna be punished by society for working more than what is yeah. For going out there and making a way,
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (45:28):
Um, it’s it’s um, work life balance now has become this great thing. Everyone is infinitely seeking work life balance while also, um, trying, they’re trying to get rich while working 40 hours a week. And there’s just endless discussions. I think every time
Speaker 4 (45:46):
I’m not working 40 hours a week. Yeah. I mean, you know, it starts at 60 and goes up from there. So, but I still feel like we have a great balance. There’s time I protect. And I spend with my family and there’s time that it’s protected and it’s spent with work. Are you all on Wednesdays? No. Why are chiropractors off on Wednesdays? I don’t know. People still hurt on Wednesdays chiropractors. They close on Wednesday. So they just weak. That’s why we’re killing them. Okay, good. I don’t know. Good job. I can’t speak to what they’re doing. I don’t know.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (46:14):
Um, Jack Welch who says a very politically incorrect, uh, thing. Um, I was asked by a group of people, about women in the workplace and their incomes and mr. Welch, Jack Welch, the CEO who grew GE by 4000% during his tenure who promoted a lot of female, a lot of females to top leadership positions. He was asked how come females aren’t making as much money as men. This is what he was asked. And the article I’ll put a link to. It was in the wall street journal. And the article was called Jack Welch. No such thing as work life balance. This is Jack Welch. And again, this is the, this is the former CEO of GE who grew the company by 4000%. He says, there’s no such thing as work life balance. We’d love to have more women moving up faster, but they’ve got to make the tough choices and know the consequences of each one.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (47:05):
So what happens is in the workplace right now is women are going to work and they’re keeping up with their male counterparts. And a lot of times they’re beating them there they’re better than them or they’re as good. But then they’re like, but I want to have a baby. And so then they say, I need to take off for maternity leave. And there’s not a whole lot of men. I mean, what was the last time Jason? You met a man who had a baby out of their body. Uh, was Arnold Schwarzenegger, junior terrible movies. No, never. Steve. Have you ever seen a man give birth to a baby? No, but I have heard of men taking maternity leave. So if you’re somebody who, if you’re a man though, and you were to say, Hey, I’m not. If remember, if there’s two workers, they started the exact same age.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (47:51):
They had the same degree. They’re both 25. They started the same company at the same time. One’s a female, one’s a male. And the guy works for 10 consecutive years and never takes a day off. He shows up every day, five days a week, never skips a day. And there’s a female who says, Hey boss, I have to get, have a baby. I need to take off for a year or six months or two months. Who’s going to get ahead faster in their career. The guy who takes off for maternity leave or the guy who shows up, I mean, who is that going to be? It’s going to be the guy that shows up. It’s just a trade off thing. Right? So if you’re out there today, again, I hope that we, we, I want to make sure everybody gets this idea. If you’re out there listening today, dr.
Business Coaching from Clay Clark (48:29):
Breck, you said it best about praying and work. You kind of explain that quote again or paraphrase it. So it’s just a matter of, you know, you work as though it relies 100% on. You love it. And you pray as though it relies 100% on God set. One more time to come together. Say it one more time. Like it’s all on you and pray. Like it’s all on gun. That is awesome. Without any further ado, we’d like to end each and every show with a boom and boom stands for big overwhelming optimistic momentum. And here we go. Any further into three, two,
Speaker 6 (49:10):
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