T. Harv Eker, the legendary author of the best-selling book “Secrets of the Millionaire Mind” which has sold over 4,000,000 copies shares why rich people admire other successful people and why poor people resent successful people.
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On today’s show, we interview the legendary author of the bestselling book, the secrets of the millionaire mind. This book has sold over 4 million copies and the author of this book, T. Harv Eker, hops on today’s show to teach you and I about the power of doing whatever it takes and why rich people truly admire other successful people. While poor people typically resent super successful people and that resentment blocks them from having the curiosity needed to study the habits, the processes, and the methods, the DDC proven strategies that are needed to take your life and your business to the next level.
Are you willing to give up good for great? And here’s the answer. Most people, no, they’re not. They talk a good talk and they but they don’t walk that walk. They are not willing to give it up because they understand that it’s going to take something different than what they’re doing right now and you know what? They are comfortable and comfortable. Everyone listened closely. Now is the kiss of death. If you are an enemy of average and you want to move on
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T. Harv Eker on the thrive time show in the Dojo of Mojo photo show. Mr T. Harv Eker how are you sir? I’m amazing. Thank you. Hey, I am so fired up to have you on the show. Your secrets of the millionaire mind did that, that audio set that audio production. I’ve listened to that thing so many times. I think that the, my brain exploded and I woke up in the middle of night hearing your voice over and over. Do you hear that a lot? Ah, sometimes, unfortunately. Well, I’ve just listened to it so much and I, I could you kind of share with the listeners out there the, how you were able to achieve success yourself because
You teach, you’re such a great teacher, but where did you first gain your success? I did it. I didn’t, I unfortunately I struggled for literally 14 years left college early. Never even graduated. Ended up being broke for over a decade. Had to choose many nights between eating dinner that night or putting $5 of gas in my car. And I often had to choose the gas to get around to see if I could make any money. Nothing was working out the way I thought it would or should. So I would say that one of the reasons that I might be fairly successful in the training arena is because, you know, I, I actually went through what a lot of people go through at the start up of their situation. And you know, I was very fortunate to make a few changes.
That actually worked actually, as I said, went through a 12 businesses that did not work. Wow. And you know, I’m sure a lot of your listeners understand that, you know, it’s all and everybody understands. It’s like, you know, you, you have an idea, right? And you are so excited about it and this is it, and now you’re gonna be successful and now you’re going to get rich and it’s finally going to work. And then it implodes and nothing happens and you lose a bunch of money. I’d never gone bankrupt, but I, I again, 12 businesses that did not work. And so you know, finally, after a little while, you start doubting yourself. Right? I remember my self esteem took a huge hit. I was, I was actually embarrassed to go out and meet people because, you know, God forbid they actually, you know, asked me what I do and I go, well I am, I’m between things as usual and hey, do you mind picking up this Cup of coffee cause I don’t have a 80 cents, like, and it was really bad.
So I’m very, very fortunately I don’t want to get into the whole story, cause a time limits. But I ran into a friend of my father’s who was extremely wealthy man and he said to me in the hallway, cause I was back living in the basement of my parents’ house that I hear that you’re broken, you’re a bum. So, so he said, you know what do you want to do? I said, I don’t know. I just want to, I just want to be successful. I just want to be, you know, make a lot of money and be rich and have a nice life. I Dunno. He says, well, how do you want to do it? I said, in business. And he said, well, listen, one thing you have to understand is that, you know, you know, rich people under s, you know, they, they work.
This is very similar ways to each other and broke people work similar ways to each other. And you know, you, if you want to be Richie, there’s, there’s probably something you don’t know yet. And of course, bring a brush young men at a time. I thought I knew everything, but he was right. And since I wasn’t making any money anyways, and I was literally on you know government pass a assistance, that stuff. I said, what the hell? So for six months, all I did was studied rich business people and I found seven principles that they seem to have in common. I put them to the test and I started with a $2,000 credit card loan. And I opened the world’s first retail chain of fitness stores and became a millionaire in two and a half years. People started asking me like, oh my God, aren’t you the same guy that still owes me 50 bucks?
I went, oh my God, here’s, here’s a hundred. I mean, so story and, and and people started asking me the difference because they knew me as a broke person and now I had, you know, had a nice house side. The cars I was, it was, it was obvious I was fairly successful. And so I started sharing some of the differences between what I thought and what I executed and what, you know, the strategies I use to get rich and versus when I was broke for those 12 years and they started using them and say, my God, this actually works and then you should teach this. So I started teaching it and you know, literally now I have over 3 million students and all I do is teach them this is what I was doing when I was broke. This is what I did to get rich.
Here’s both of them. Choose whatever the hell you want and good luck to you. Now, you mentioned there are seven common denominators of successful people, and I know we don’t have a, I wanted to, I’m trying to make this passively aggressive with the first 20 minutes of our, of our 200 minutes interview, but could you share with us just one of those principles would be one of those seven principles, just so our listeners can have a little bit of a look into your insight? Well, I think the first one that changed for me and that needs to change for everyone is something called your, your money blueprint or your financial set point. I wrote a book on this called secrets of the millionaire mind. I guess it was successful. We have over 4 million copies sold and it’s in 42 different languages. And it works.
I mean every time people ask me about strategies about business and this and that, you know, I certainly can get into all of that and we do, but I say none of it, none of it makes any difference whatsoever if you do not have what we call a millionaire mind or financial blueprint set for high levels of success. And you know, there’s a lot of people listening right now that are, that might be kind of like stuck in a, in in what I call good. And the question I have for everybody listening right now is are you willing to give up or trade in good for great. Because I’ll tell you right now, my friends, there is a big, big, big difference in both mindset and business strategy from good to great. And I mean financial. I mean are you willing to give up your hundred thousand a year for $1 million a year? Are you willing to give up a net worth of a million or two for 30 40 50 60 million? I will say this again, the for those two things are different for each other.
I think a lot of our listeners have maybe in their mind mystified wealthy people and optical will say, well, you know, money corrupts and money’s the root of all evil and you hear these things, but in your, and your audio a book, I remember you, you saying that money will only make you more of what you already are. And I think I had maybe grown up hearing, you know, that money is the root of all evil and that the rich get richer and, and all and you know, money makes money corrupts people. Can you talk about what you mean by that, by that quote too. Money will make you more of what you already are.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is a big one because you’re not the only one that grew up with that type of a message. Those type of messages where people, you know, money corrupts people. Rich people are bad. Rich people take advantage of others. Rich people are greedy and not only people grew up with that, with the, from their parents, et Cetera, et cetera and, and people around them. But you know, when you, when you listen to the religious leaders, when you listen to other than this last administration, the government, I’m, who’s telling you that? You know, you know, it’s the 99% against the 1% then you know when you go there and not be the 1% or you’re going to be overthrown, it’s like, oh my God. Like, you know, the I yet understanding is, is that this is what I do at my seminars.
That really gets the point. I say, okay, so how many of you have heard or in some way, shape or form, really, really, really, really down deep in your, in your subconscious have some type of message that rich people are quote unquote kind of, you know, bad. Let’s just in quotes, bad in any way, shape or form and literally almost in love be 5,000 people in that room and 4,990 will put up their hand. Yeah. You know, and I’ll go, okay, let’s just, let’s just examine this for real. I mean, how many of you would agree and say that yes, there are some rich people who are quote unquote bet. Everyone puts their hands up. I take all right. How many of you would agree that there are some middle class people who are quote unquote bet? Everyone puts their hands up. I say, how many of you would agree there’s some poor are broke. People who are quote unquote bad? Everyone puts their hands on it say so what on earth does this have to do with money? This doesn’t have to do with money. This has to do with the person, right? Money is like a money is a tool, right? It’s like a hammer. It can be used to build things. It can be used to break things. It’s not about the hammer. It’s about who’s holding the hammer. So the question isn’t, are rich people bad? The question is, are you bad? You
Don’t know if this is something that you talked about in your audio book that I really wanted to dive in with you on because dive into with you is you talked about in your, in your audio book that rich people admire other rich and successful people and poor people resent them and successful people. And as I was listening to you in my car, I was going, I do hate rich people. I hate rich people. I think I do. I don’t think I’ve ever had that conscious thought, but subconscious. I remember talking to my wife, I said, Babe, you know, why do people have to have Lamborghinis? Why do they even have to be that car costs 10 times more than the crappy car I’m driving? And Vanessa said, well, it’s because you need something to aspire to. You shouldn’t be mad at someone because they have something you should like, you know, aspire to it. It’s exciting. It gives us something to aim for. Could you talk about this, how rich people admire other rich people and successful people, whereas poor people tend to resent successful people?
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the most important thing about that is everybody needs to be listening right now because most people have this mini resentment in their, in their, again, their subconscious. But this is really critical. It may not. Listen everyone, it may not sound all that critical because we’re not talking about this is the marketing strategy to make $1 million tomorrow. No, but listen very closely. This is the software of success. Everybody’s dealing with the hardware of success, but the hardware goes nowhere without the software in a computer does it. So if you don’t think that this is important, trust me that I’ve done this for 30 years, this is still by far the most important element to get straight. If you don’t have this straight, you will struggle forever. So bottom line is a great question because if you believe in any way, shape or form that rich people are bad and you want to be a good person, then guess what?
You can never ever, ever get rich. Never, never will never happen. You will sabotage yourself till the day you die because you believe somewhere deep inside that rich people are bad. So what do you do? Well, you know, I live, I’m live. I’m talking to you right now from my home in Lake Tahoe. It’s a private community and the cheapest cabin here is three point $5 million. Okay? And the average John goes for between somewhere between 10 and 15 million. And so I talk with people here all the time. And, and no, nobody, nobody believes that rich people are bad because they’re one of them, first of all. But they never had that thought. They never grew up with that thought. Or if they did, they changed their mind. So the goal is to what? You know, you had Meyer and model rich and successful people. It’s like, it’s like you’re a basketball player and you’re in the hood and you’re trying to get out of there and you now hate Lebron James because he’s rich and a great basketball player. Well, no, you go, I don’t hate him. He’s a great basketball player. Of course I admire him. Well, great people who get rich. First of all, you should know that 86% of people who get rich ourself may rich not given to them by daddy and mommy. Okay? So for all those people, they struggle just like you and me. For all those people, they went through their hardships for all those people. They made it by their widths and their success in their study
And their abdomen and they created success and we need to admire them in the same way that they are great at what they did. In the same way you admire, if you are a basketball player, Lebron James, for his prowess and his skill, you go, he’s fantastic at what he does. That’s why he earns that money. Same with rich people. So we’ve got to switch that mindset to admire them. Secondly, we need to model them. The reason I became successful is because I spent six months studying rich business people went out, did what they did and got rich and continue to get richer and richer and richer and richer and I teach thousands and millions of other people how to do the same thing. So you got to want to admire and model rich and successful people. Thank you for bringing that up. Clay stairs. You actually are a former school teacher turned down millionaire entrepreneurs.
That’s it. That’s a, that’s a big idea of going from a school teacher to being a millionaire entrepreneur. And it was years ago, you and I first started working together and I said, you gotta get down to one of these T. Harv Eker and her seminars. She got to go down there and tell the listeners about that seminar experience. And then I’d love for you to bombard Mr. T. Harv Eker with questions. Oh yeah. Well first of all, I had a wonderful time and, and to T. Harv Eker, I tell everybody, I mean it’s part of my story of the transformation kind of began right there in Dallas. Being down at the seminar, I remember the the money mindset survey where they were a number of questions, you know, money is, money is money is type of thing. And the first time I did that on day one of the seminar, I mean I was jacked up with the way that I was thinking.
I was just completely like, you and clay are just talking about my mindset on money was just completely screwed up. Checked, jacked. Yeah. And and so I saw for the first time, like clay was saying, I saw for the first time, I actually hate the very person I’m trying to become a wealthy, successful businessman. I hate that guy in here. And hearing you say, you know, from the front, you will never become something you hate. Oh my gosh. He was like, ah. So again, I’ve got snot tears everywhere, you know, and I’m gonna get dug and people know you love you, you know, next to me and everything, but it was a transformational a three day seminar for me. Loved it. Thank you so much for being a part of a, of that transformation in my life. Just tremendous. Then of course I just got all the books and that ended up being a very important step for me.
And now that I am a business coach and work with clients across the country, this is one of the very things that I find when I am working with other clients is like clay was saying, they are stuck in being a solo preneur. They’re stuck in being a self employed person in their thermometer. If I remember correctly learning from you, they have this thermostat of about 80 grand, 60 to 80, maybe $100,000. Yep. And if they get more money than that, they just lose it. It just slips right through their fingers. And so my question to you is, is how can I encourage these business owners that have, that have a business that is stuck in good. That’s good. How can I encourage them with this, this whole thing of we’ve got to change your thermostat. [inaudible]
You just went through the phone and like
Grabbed their brain. But you know the Vulcan mind trick. Last time I did it, I got slapped.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, listen your cat, you can’t lead a, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t force them to drink. So I always, always start with the goal, right? There’s not for everybody there not, there’s a, most people listen closely here, do not want that. Like I started this whole conversation with are you willing to give up good for great. And here’s the answer. Most people, no they’re not. They talk a good talk and they, but they don’t walk that walk. They are not willing to give it up because they understand that it’s going to take something different than what they’re doing right now. And you know what? They are comfortable and comfortable. Everyone listen closely. Now is the kiss of death. That kiss of death to high levels of success. If you want to be more successful, you must do something more and different than you’re doing now.
Which means you must be kind of uncomfortable. And the goal is to be a cause. What happens though is uncomfortable is what? It’s temporary, right? Cause you start doing something uncomfortable. But after a while it becomes what? Comfortable. Right? So then you start doing something else so it’s not like you know, it’s like going into water. At first it feels a little cold, but then it’s like, hey, the water is great. C’mon in was exactly the same way with starting to do different strategies that have different mindsets around success and being willing to, the number one thing I say in my book is, number one, you must commit to wealth. You must say, I want to be freaking rich, and people say, well, what? What is rich? I’m rich in spirit. I’m rich in love. I go, no, no, no. That is not what we’re talking about.
That is a given that you want that great. No, we are talking about one thing and that one thing is money. Okay, rich in money into, to me at least, I don’t know where this, where this podcast is going, but we’re all over the world by, at least in in in America for me to use and to say this, you don’t have to agree with it. That for me the word rich starts. Someone says, I’m rich. I’m thinking net worth of a minimum of 10 million minimum. Okay. And these days, and hey, I freaking house cost two or three or 4 million, so like mean. So if you can’t wrap your head around that, then you need to start wrapping your head around that. When I used to be rich, I mean rich, so you’re going to be gone for a new net worth. I say everybody, all my students have one goal and that goal is a net worth of a minimum of $10 million and an income of a minimum of $1 million a year. And so I need to, I need to have people change their ways of thinking. Go shoot. I’m not, I haven’t been thinking that and that’s what I want. And Greg, if that’s what you want, then we need to start revamping things.
No. Oh, T. Harv Eker I, we have time for two final questions because I know that you have a wonderful, a gift for our audience there. So I guess I have one final question then. I would love for you to share with the audience about the the gift that you’re going to make available for our, for our listeners for, for you as a successful entrepreneur. We’ve had so many great guests. We’ve had Wolfgang puck on the show, John Maxwell. We’ve had Seth Goden. Obviously you’ve had just you on the show here. We have the owner of the Houston Rockets that will be on the show here soon. Just really neat guests. And it seems like every one of you has some sort of idiosyncrasy, some sort of super power, you know, some sort of daily morning routine or something that you do that nobody else does that, that allows you to have super success. What is your idiosyncrasy or your thing that you do with your daily routine that you do that almost nobody else does?
You know what, I d I s I was asked this pretty recently and actually my son Jesse was asked and he knows they pretty well. He goes, I don’t think my dad actually has anything like that. And he asked me and I go, no, I haven’t. I don’t have anything like that. No. There’s only one thing that I know that makes me successful and that is I am strictly a whatever it takes freaking person. I am a a success warrior. I will do whatever it takes. I will be up at two in the morning, five in the morning, right all day. Do what our actetate do all day, all night, whatever it takes. And most people are not like that. And I would venture to guess that every one of the people that you mentioned is successful. People that you mentioned is like that. They have that.
And that’s a habit. My friends, that is a habit. The other thing that that is that I don’t, I don’t take any bs from anybody, especially myself. So that’s the biggest thing. I don’t buy into my own any belief system that I have that is not supportive to my happiness and to my success and the only one that will stop me. And you from your success and your happiness is the voice inside your head. And I train myself. I work on that every single day to train myself. I use anchors, et Cetera to re reorganize and master my own mind. And that’s the only thing I know of that works for me.
Alright, T. Harv Eker, now you, you were talking off offline there and you put together a little something special for our listeners out there. What, what what do you have? Well, I know that
A lot of your listeners are business owners. I know that a lot of them are looking, you know, to grow and do better hopefully. And as we said, I, if you’re not, if you don’t have a net worth of 10 million, I at this point in time and you don’t have an income of at least a million a year, there’s a reason. And the reason you don’t have that right now is because of what you’re doing right now. And what you’re doing right now is a consequence of what you understand and the knowledge that you have. And so you got to go back to that part of it. And so I was in Maui not that long ago. And I have a home there and I was just driving. I’m not going to get in the story, but I actually looked around me and, and I, you know, I have a Maui car, which is still, it’s decent but not like, you know, incredible Porsche, whatever we’ve got now, but in any other, any other homes.
But I was looking at it at 90% of the people were broke. And I’m not saying that your people are broke, but it’s like, why are these people broke? Why aren’t they not rich? Like, like me? Okay, why are not, what is the problem here? I said, I just, it just seems like I know what to do now to get rich. If you took away all my money right now, I guarantee you you would be rich in literally 24 months. Like all of it, I’d be back to five or 10 million net worth because I know what to do. Okay, this is not rocket science, right? And so I said, you know what, if someone could just make it simple for people, make it really easy to somehow go and put this down on paper and say, how do you go and get rich? And so the problem with a lot of people is they go, yeah, I want to be rich, but I also want to be a good person and, and help people and you know, so I have this, you know, dichotomy of what’s going on in my head.
So I ended up writing this book and putting down these eight steps, keep it simple, eight simple steps to creating wealth, period. Okay? And the book is called the good millionaire. How to make a lot of money by helping a lot of people cause that way you get to do the two most important things. I believe in life. You get to serve others with your gift and you make, you get really, really rich. Okay? So these are eight simple steps. It’s called the good millionaire. It’s, it’s a very, very new we’ve only put it out to our database just as a few thousand people. The response has been more than overwhelming cause he’d been going, oh my God. And here’s the best thing I put. I wrote this book and the way I would read a book, which is I’m not going to read any book that takes me more than 60 minutes period over now, I don’t have the time or the inclination.
You can read this entire book in 45 minutes and get my 25 years of of experience and knowledge and teaching me in 45 minutes. It’s full of graphics and it’s done in an accelerated learning format. The way we do our seminars, clay, the way you mentioned whereby it’s ingrained in you, you to learn faster. You remember more, you have a lot more fun. 45 minutes, you will know exactly how to create wealth in any business you choose and help thousands of people by doing so and so, you know, I believe you take, if you want to get rich, don’t focus on money, don’t focus on money, focus on helping people and that’s what this book entails and teaches you how to transfer, helping people into millions of dollars. Okay, and so I want to just do that and so I want to gift, the word is gift. Every one of your listeners with this book complimentary. It is a a heart hard back book. And so it’s common. All we ask is that you take your people take care of shipping. That’s it. So we don’t have to incur that expense with the books. I’m only 24 95. It’s complimentary to all your listeners and I guess they go to [inaudible] dot com slash clays bill. Then we can give it to them complimentary.
So big out of Harv eker.com forward slash clay. They can get the pre book. Absolutely. T. Harv Eker. I appreciate you for a living up to what I expected you to deliver. And thank you for making a poor life choice and agreeing to be on my show. Wow.
I really appreciate it and I just want to say to everybody listening that listen, if you are doing whatever you’re doing right now, it’s gotten to where you are right now and to get somewhere else, you are going to have to do something else. I would encourage you to start with this book, the good millionaire. I will say that in my experience. If you read this and you can read it in one quick sitting, you will have a completely different take on what you’re doing and how you’re doing it, execute it, and then let clay know how you’re doing.
It’s Harv eker.com h a r v E K e r.com forward slash clay to get your free copy of the book, just pick up the shipping and handling Tiara Eker. I appreciate you more than you could possibly know my friend and I hope you have an awesome rest of your day.
I appreciate you. Thank you so much and thanks to everybody and bless you all.
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