The World’s Best Business Coach Wasn’t Perpetually Distracted | An Ample Example of Bill Campbell

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Some shows don’t need a celebrity in the writer to introduce the show. Could they show dots to math? Eight kids, Koch created by two different women, 13 multimillion dollar businesses. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the thrive time,

It is time for another apple example of the world’s best business coach Bill Campbell. Andrew, do you know who Bill Campbell was? A Yes, I do. Who was he? Give us. Give us a quick overview. Who was he? The business coach for? [inaudible]. He was the business coach for Eric Schmidt, the founder of Google. Get outta here. Uh, he was a business coach for Facebook. He was the business coach for, you’re saying he was the bit that he was the business coach for Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google. Who else? Um, he was, uh, Jonathan Rosenberg, Alan Eagle, um, and a bunch more. I can get a list. You know what? You know what I tell you? What intrigued you. You paint me into a corner. As always, you hit me up with these, these questions like this. I’m not prepared. Here I am trying to type in all the show notes and then you just hit me up with all these tough questions.

Uh, no. Thrive, thrive nation in all sincerity. Andrew was working on the show notes and I decided to ask him out of nowhere. Okay, so I put the jobs. There you go. I put it on the show notes and you now can read. You can read on the show notes who? Some of Bill Campbell’s coaching clients where a, okay, so is Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google. Okay. Steve Jobs, the cofounder of Apple. Larry Page, the cofounder of Google. Sergey Brin, cofounder of Google, Jeff Bezos, the cofounder of Amazon, a Sheryl Sandberg, COO of Facebook. Tim Cook, CEO of Apple. Okay. Al Gore, the former vice president of the United States of America. So this guy was working with the biggest names in the world. Yep. All of the world’s most successful tech companies that I can think of. You have Amazon, that’s the world’s biggest online retailer. Yeah. Google the largest search engine. Apple, the largest hardware manufacturer.

All of these companies had a ahead of the company. A leader. Somebody who was in charge of the company and all of them had one thing in common. Andrew and what does that thing, Bill Campbell? Yes, yes, yes and yes. All these guys shared one business coach and his name was what? Bill Campbell, you know that name, thrive nation. Know that name. And he is the subject of the new book, which Andrew Do you have in your hand? What’s the title of the new book? I do. It is called $1 trillion coach. The leadership playbook of Silicon Valley’s Bill Campbell. Here’s a tip.

Probably should get that book. You probably should. What’s the name of the book that can be under there?

Trillion dollar coach

Kinda settled tip out there with a megaphone. You might want to go there and buy a copy of the trillion dollar coach by Eric Schmidt.

That book is awesome. Interviews through reading that book yet. I have read the book. Oh, I have a notable quotable in the book. I’d like for you to, to read here for the listeners. Go ahead and read the, read the quote with, with, with um, a lot of passion, a lot of enthusiasm. No, not too much enthusiasm and not, not too much passion, but just enough

so we can marinate on this guy right here. Here we go. And a coaching session with bill. You could expect that he would listen intently. No checking his phone for texts or email. No glancing at his watch out the window while his mind wander. Wait a minute. When you are coaching with Bill Campbell, there was no what? No checking his phone. Got It. For texts or email? No glancing at his watch or out the window, whatever this means or the supplies. It’s really deep. Andrew. I was looking out the window and I got distracted. Reset. I said that Bill Campbell actually never looked at his watch out the window wall. Talkings okay. Continuous. Um, to let his mind wandering. He was always right

there. Today it is popular to talk about being present or in the moment. We’re pretty sure that those words never passed. The coaches lifts, yet he knew it was one of their great practitioners. Outdoor says he learned from bill how important it is to pay careful attention to the person that you’re dealing with. Give them your full undivided attention. Really listening carefully. She only then do you go into the issue, there’s an order for it. Sorry about that. My mind was wandering.

No, and also Saturday. I think that’s what most people do most of the time. Yeah, and as a coaching tip here for you as an ample example of a knowledge bomb from Bill Campbell that your mind can handle, I encourage you, if you’re out there today, turn your phone off when you’re turning your mind on when you’re talking to somebody in your office, don’t be looking at your phone when you’re on a date. Quit looking at your phone when you’re in a meeting with the best business coach turned her phone off. I used to go round and round, round and round, round and round, round, round, round and round and round to you and me. He right [inaudible] you spin me. He right brown baby, right bound. I go, there it is. I used to go, ah, wasn’t no yo name.

How’s that song go out? If you don’t, you’re not, you know, I mean doctors that you got to do it in. You go spin may who? Right. That is round like all record. Maybe they buy it. Anyway. I used to go round and round with members of our team because some of them would turn on these programs called slack and slack allowed members of our team to communicate instantaneously with other members of the team who are working on a project with them. And what do you think happened to Andrew? I mean I went round and round probably two days in a row before I banned the use of the program. But what would happen? Oh man, if you’re instant messaging between coworkers instantaneously like you’re probably talking about what happened this weekend, what you’re going to do tonight and what you’re eating for lunch, what you did last night, what you’re doing tonight and what year.

That’s probably what’s being talked about, not the project at hand. So if you’re out there today as an action step, I encourage you to only focus on the project that is in front of you, my friend. It is super important for you not to be distracted when you are working on something. We live in a world of perpetual distraction, but it is only those who take the right action that ever gain the traction to come up that we live in a world of perpetual distraction. But it is only those who take the right actions, whoever gain traction. Now Andrew, I have a fun fact buffet blind up just to demonstrate how distracted the world is right now. Oh yeah. And why everybody needs to take the advice of Bill Campbell, the world’s best business coach, and to focus on what you’re doing. Uh, and not, not a fact that I can prove statistically, but the first fact I want to share is, you know this Andrew, I am the world’s worst driver.

This is very true. So please explain what it is like to drive behind me on the road. Um, it’s usually a pretty frustrating. You drive pretty slow, so you’re driving really slow and typically on the curb, how it typically, I’ll slow my gun usually if you’ve got, I’m sure you’ve looked at it. Really, what are we doing here? Yeah. Speed limit. 65 on the creek turnpike. And you can go on about 55, 50, 60, or just really. Right. Okay. And what do you, what does it usually I’m doing, I’m usually doing what are thinking about what in your mind, what do you do you think I’m normally just doing? What do I think you’re thinking about? Uh, probably about, uh, something on the to do list or calendar. Anything except for the road. Right. And are you writing on your couch on your to do list?

I’m trying to focus on the road, but I’m very myopic in that. When I get like a one thought, I immediately divert to that thought. Right. That’s how I black or white. And so again, I mean it’s, I haven’t hit people. I have, I have not gotten a car expenses it since I was like 16 years old. Wow. And by the way, the car accident, I got into, guess what? I ran into a pole stationary. I ran into a brinks armored truck. I did because I was driving and the sun was coming up a certain way. Yeah, I couldn’t see it and see well enough. You know what, as what was going on, what happened? It went up over the hill. I just ran right into this thing. What, what were you driving? A Ford escort? 1989 didn’t resistant and painted Ford escorts. Yeah, I mean I got, I got smashed in that thing now.

Anyway. All is well, all is well. I was the west. Uh, he was just driving and I just didn’t, didn’t see it and just pay him. So, but don’t, no car accident since that time. It’s impressive. It’s because people are askew. Are afraid of the slope driving comer. You have a big car. Yeah. Alright, so fact number one, again, multitasking doesn’t work. Okay. It doesn’t work. And I just use myself as an example, but there’s so many people out there that struggle, uh, trying to do two things at one time. But let’s get into the hard facts that are backed by science and research. All right, so hard fact number one, this coming in a statistical, a mystical statistical coming in here from the good folks at Nielsen. What is the first fun factoid? According to the first quarter 2018 Nielsen total audience report, nearly half an adult’s day is dedicated to consuming this content.

In fact, American adults spend over 11 hours per day listening to, watching, reading, or generally interacting with media. All of this done on the smart phone, the TV, the device, the laptop, whatever. Yup. It’s so hard to get anything done if you’re watching that much TV. Andrea, how much TV are you watching per day? I don’t watch TV. Sometimes. My wife and I will watch half an hour, like one episode of something, but that’s like once a week. So if you’re out there today and you’re going, gosh, I don’t have time to get stuff done. One, get the TV off the schedule now. Fun factoid number two. Uh, read the second fun factoid coming in hot from psychology today. Here we go. These disruptions add up. Studies indicate that even brief interruptions exponentially increase our chances of making mistakes. This is because when our attention is diverted, we use up a valuable cognitive resources, a reorder, reorient, reorienting ourselves, leaving less mental energy for completing our work.

The point is, every time you’re distracted, you have to kind of reset, and the more times that you have to reset, the more upset you begin to be. So I would just encourage you out there. You’ve got to turn that phone off. Bill Campbell, the world’s best business coach, when he was coaching his clients, Andrew, his phone was what? His phone was off. Oh my gosh. Andrew, are you liking this book, by the way? I’m loving the book. Have you started reading the trillion dollar coach? I have. Yep. How many pages are you into the book that you just read the cover and say, I’m done. I read a, I’ve read. I read the whole thing yesterday. No Way. I did. How long did it take you? It took me six hours. You serious? Yeah. I’m mad at you. I did it well in the car driving Oklahoma City.

No, I was not driving. Oh, it’s this just right there. Wow. That’s impressive. I was not driving. I do have a family member, the true story that showed up at her house. Yeah. And they get out of the car and they’re like, oh my gosh, this book was great and I’m going, what do you mean they go, so I’ve written while I was driving from Minnesota and I read this book and I’m like, you read a fiction 300 page thriller book while driving is Yes. That’s, that’s, that’s, that’s it. That right there makes you want to smoke. You’re overweight to thin. Right. So Fun factoid number Andrew. Do you know what I mean when I say make sure when I’m smoke your way to thin? Do you have any idea what I’m talking about? I educate me. Okay.

[inaudible] like I picked the wrong [inaudible] like I picked the wrong week. It’s

a line from the movie airplane where every time the air traffic controller, whatever the airport head guy, yeah. Every time a stressful situation happens, he regrets giving up one of his vices. All right, so fun factoid number three, coach bought Andrew. Bring it. All right. So if you were like the average person, you’ll spend more than five years of your life, five years of your life on social media, five years and four months to be exact. That breaks down to nearly two hours or 116 minutes a day spent on youtube, Facebook, snapchat, Instagram, and Twitter. Well, I can say I spend about 116 minutes a year on social media. Hey, you go. I seriously, I don’t ever go on there. Yeah, it’s someone says, what do you do? You postings. I see what, no, that’s, that’s a total different game there. That’s a decision to post certain things at certain times, but that’s not me up there interacting because my brain would expo.

Ah, by the way, as an example, there was somebody in the office today that told me, I did hear about what the mayor of New York is doing right now. I did not, uh, John, I know you’re not miked up. I’ve over there, but you hear about the mayor of New York and now, now the mayor. Okay. Then this is a true story. The mayor of New York has decided and his infinite wisdom that what he’d like to do is he would like to make, um, New York City more green by banning any efficient steel and glass skyscrapers. Now, if he gets his way, he’s proposing, try to cue it up here. Oh, come on. Don’t, don’t Cuba commercial. No, no. We’re trying to get to the, this is on Fox right now. Fox News. Are you queued up here? The green new deal. All right. He talks about how New York City is a big source of emissions and he’s putting clear and strong mandates where he wants to by the year 2030, he wants to make all of the buildings 30% more efficient.

So he wants to reduce their emissions by 30% by 2030. Now here’s what’s crazy. Uh, John, I’ll give you the megaphone here, man. I, you get to guess if they put out the green new deal, if they put out the green new deal, you get to guess here. How many, uh, how much money do you get? Do you think it will cost the average American family to implement? The green new deal. Now the green new deal would ban it would pan most air travel. It’s a little, and it wouldn’t make America essentially have a carbon neutral foot footprint. Um, okay. How much do you think it would cost the average American household to implement the green new deal? John, do you have a number? John says $10,000 now, right here. Uh, I’ll tell you what, the number $10,000, a $10,000 is not quite high enough.

Andrew, what’s your guess? Uh, that’s not quite enough to about $25,000. No. Oh Geez. Guys, it’s $600,000 per American family by the year 2030 and $93 trillion expense. And this is to make the world more in vital, environmentally friendly. Now this is to reverse global warming, which is still debatable that it actually has happened because we’ve seen the word earth get cooler and warmer throughout history. Yeah. The point is, I do not spend my day thinking about that. I almost get upset when people tell me. I’m like, don’t tell me I don’t care, but it’s this. I’m getting coffee. And someone’s like, did you hear about a new deal up there in New York? I mean, no, but I mean that’s what you could spend your whole day up there, right? Oh, so you just got to focus on what you can control. Andrew, what’s the next fun fact?

Fun Fact Number four in June, 2016 another study reported that the typical smartphone owner interacts with his or her phone on average of 85 times per day. I would say for me it’s about 8.5 times per day or you go and I get, I get mad when I have to use that thing. I hate that thing. I hate when it’s like, Hey, I called you, you called me. Could you send me a text? Could we reschedule? Is there any way, could you tweet me? Could you ping me? Could you send me an email? It could we reach you. I just want to set an appointment and set it and forget it, but man, you can waste a whole day chasing people around playing phone tag. Oh yeah. Keeping your phone on at night just in case you get the call or a text on blue. Now what does the next fun factoid, Andrew Five research conclusively shows that your memory, mental capacity and your overall ability to pre processed data improves dramatically when a smart phone is out of your site.

Does that seem shocking to in any capacity or does that seem, does that seem shocking? It’s not shocking. It’s a strange concept that just the sight of a smartphone can distract someone to the point of being inefficient. Dude. Does having a smartphone near you make you mad when you’re out on a, on a, on a date or when you’re having fun with friends or you’re doing something not work related? Does it make you crazy just having that phone there? No one that you might get a call from anybody or do you not you, you don’t mind? I typically try to leave it at home or in the car when it’s date night I just leave it so that way it’s not a distraction. Okay. But, okay, now I’m going to say for me it, it to me makes me nuts cause I know that it can be good or bad news can be just a call away, but a, okay, Andrew, what does the next fun fact, fact number six research shows that when you have a smartphone that is visible in a social setting, it dramatically decreases the quality of the interaction, which creates more bogus and superficial social interactions.

When you end up talking to people who are on their smart phones. Can I, can we, can we kind of do a role play of how those co, how that conversation typically goes? Andrew? Yeah. So Andrew, Hey, I’m you. Okay. How are you? I’m doing great. And then I’m done. You’re texting. Okay, great man. Um, so how’s the weekend? It’s going good. How’s your weekend? Yeah. What, that’s what happens all the time. It’s called monkey brain people. Their brains just, it sounds like they’re mildly retarded. It’s something they had, are not able to process what you’re saying because they don’t know what you’re saying. And then they say, you know what they say see abroad to get that booty down a smack. It just, it’s unbelievable. Next time you go out to eat, next time you go a local bar, listen to the kinds of conversations people are having or not having it all.

Have you. Have you gone to a restaurant and just seeing people texts back and forth the whole time. What the crap is going on. Hey, hey. Hey. Quick, quick. Take a photo real quick. I want to pee. I’m going to get a photo with my, with my husband real quick. We going to float my girlfriend real quick. Hey, let’s get a photo together cause Mr waiter, can you hold the camera? Oh you can’t? Okay. Let me do a selfie. Oh look, I’ll post picture of myself and now my pictures show it’s on the Internet and I’ll add little disloyal my green eyes. Make it more green, smooth out my skin a little bit and then hold the key. You got to hold the camera up in the mice man. Yeah. You got to hold the camera up because that way you did look better with the Chin Angle.

You know, you don’t get the double Chin going when you hit the devil. So you get the Selfie Angle, you post it and you write something like lol best friends forever, you know, and then you post and someone will immediately tag you like or, or the heart or the like it or they’ll share it or there and you just, what are you doing? We’ve got to stay focused with Bill Campbell taking selfies with people. Bill Campbell was never on his phone and whenever he was talking to anybody. Okay. Andrew, what’s the next fun fact? Fun fact number seven says, studies show that uh, studies now prove that you will get, you will sleep less. Uh, you will sleep less well when you have a smartphone that is left next to you while you are sleeping. No Way. Studies show, come on. Are you kidding? Me and Andrew were putting the links to all these, all these [inaudible]. Where did we get that fun factoid for Prom. That one is from business insider.com. We were putting the links to all this on today’s show notes. Andrew, get into the next fun factoid.

Since the proliferation of the APP or the of the smart phone, the center of disease control shows that life expectancy is down as more Americans die younger due to suicide and drug overdose. Wow, positive. John brought it up today. John was saying, Hey, we’ve got all these, uh, you know, debates about laws for gun control. But I’ll tell you one thing that’s killing a lot of people. It’s suicide. I mean, think about how many people are killing themselves. Andrew, let me click on the link real quick here. Hopefully we don’t get any, uh, automatic commercials that start playing. I can’t stand that. I’m trying to get my show notes here, but right now we show, right now check this out in America are 2.8 million US deaths in 2017 or nearly 70,000 more than the previous year. It was the most deaths in a single year since the government began counting.

Well, that makes sense cause we have, you know, more and more, uh, people being born. But here’s what’s crazy. Check this out. The suicide death rate last year was the highest. It’s been in more than 50 years according to the u s government records. Now, there were more than I wanna I wanna I just, now John, John, John does not miked up, but he gets to guests in here. So I want to say the number of deaths last year. Okay. Due to gun violence. All right. So I want you, Andrew, to think about the number of people last year that died as a result of gun violence. Okay? And John, I want you to think about the number of people that died last year as a result of suicides. All right? So Andrew, uh, let’s go with, uh, gun violence. All right? So how many people do you think last year died from gun violence in these great United States?

Uh, gun violence, the 50,000, 50,000. It’s a very negative, negative. It’s a negative number. So again, repeat your guests. 50,000, 50,000. What humans that were effected by gun violence. So you think 50,000? Yep. That’s your guests. Okay. John, what’s your guest for the number of deaths? Last year related to, um, actual suicide. If you, if you had to guess the number, 44,000. Now here, here are the four here, the heart both very, very negative, not to the guest I had last year. I believe that, um, the total number of deaths due to gun violence, um, student one, and I also would guess that the number of deaths from suicide would be zero. No, I’m wrong. Okay. Here it is guys. The number of people you that died from gun violence was 39,773. However, the number of people that died as a result of killing themselves, so 47,000, John, maybe we should, maybe we should have laws for guns.

I mean, it seems like that the smartphone is more dangerous than a gun. More dangerous than a gun. An unbelievable. Now that’s not to say that every single suicide was caused as a result of a smartphone. People aren’t on Facebook going, look at it. Somebody wrote something bad about me. I shut off myself. I mean, I don’t see that every, but that’s a lot of suicide, man. Yeah. And then studies are showing there’s a connection between the amount of time you spend on a smart phone and you’re man of depression. Andrew, move onto our next. We’d want him to just fun, fun, fun. All right, so fun fact number nine, people who use a smartphone nonstop have been shown to have more chronic hand, neck and back issues. In fact, anxiety, depression, a disrupted sleep and disrupted sleep, diminished, diminished attention span, antisocial behavior, decreased empathy are all attributes to today’s average smart phone use.

What were all the parts of the body that can be affected and cause pain as a result of using the phone? Too much chronic hand, neck, back. We don’t need your hand, your neck or your back. Nah, your hand, your neck or no, right. I mean those are just in all areas of the body place, those little parts of the body. Okay. Andrew, what is the next fun factoid. Next time you go out to a restaurant and look at the lack of interaction and eye contact being, uh, being had by couples who are out to eat. It turns out that, uh, the, the person you are on a date with will not like going out with you if you send, if you spend more time on your smartphone than you spend paying attention. No. Where do we pick a bed? Fun factoid. Where can we learn more about this particular story that also is coming from business insider.com.

Okay, let’s go to fun factoid number 11. Oh Man. Parents who choose to attempt to parent their children while also using their smart phones are not fully present. Get outta here. Which over time has been shown to create longterm emotional issues. No, their children. Can I tell you a not good story? Go ahead. Yeah. My son played hockey years ago, uh, played hockey, you know, skating, skating. She is my hockey sounds [inaudible] on the ice. Just all don’t, Ya know, spin. Woo light the lamp, the whole thing. Hockey. Okay. Um, check them against the boards. He, Hey, here’s all, don’t say chuck them against the boards. Make let the boys fight. I mean, anyway, at three things that happened that year in hockey that I thought were pretty amazing. Yeah. One was apparent was so irate during an eighth grade hockey game that the parent went onto the ice to settle his grievances.

Oh No. With the referee. That’s a true story. That’s pretty funny. Did it get physical out of that on, it was like a guy who goes on the isis starts making threats with us pretty. Oh yeah. Second thing I saw that was pretty amazing during the hockey season. These are like my, the peak, the peaks from highlights, I found out you can’t fight during sanctioned high school hockey. Okay. But during the competitive league you can fight. Oh, okay. So like if let’s say to the players got into a fight out off of the ice, that would be a misdemeanor and they would go to jail for fighting. Got It. But if it’s okay on the ice, they can throw as many haymakers as they want. But you can think about that. That’s crazy. Go to a, like a high school basketball game. I mean what kind of suspension would somebody hit be facing if they hauled off and punched somebody, but yet in high school hockey you can just go after it.

Yeah. And the third thing that just blew my mind is a dad was letting his son uses his iPad. I’m just sitting there watching the Musee iPad and the kid’s like 1314. Right. And he’s just looking at like naked women everywhere. Wow. And I’m going, no, but I was, I was more concerned that the father didn’t care then I was, the kid was on it right. Now what happened to Andrew? If you have a kid and you let your kid hanging out with the kind of, you know, kid whose dad lets him look at whatever he wants to on that thing there, your kids gonna to come become like how that child is, they’re going to start becoming like the people they hang around. Do you ever, did you growing up, did you ever have a, a friend’s dad who was a real sick freak? A friend’s dad?

Um, not that I, well, maybe, yeah, I’ve never, I’ve never shared this story before, but I got a good one. Yeah. Let’s say a friend of mine growing up, uh, he invites me to his house and we get to his house and I’ve never been to his house. I’m like, probably 16, 17. And His dad is watching a straight up adult movie while we’re sitting there talking. So He’s watching interns. It’s not like a clever adult movie with like a plot, right. It’s just people getting it on and I’m sitting there talking what is happening? And he’s watching it and I’m just like, ah, because I feel like sick, you know, like I’ve never seen that kind of, I’m like, Oh God. Oh, just, Eh. So he’s just watched it and he just is, you don’t have a beer and just watch. And I’m just like the normal thing.

So he’s like, so, ah, they are you going to prom this year? And I’m like, yeah, Mr whatever. Yeah. You know, I’m going Prom, you know? Yeah. Well we have a hot tub down there, don’t you know? All right ladies. And I’m like, what? What does that mean? So we go into my friend’s room and his dad bought him a box of condoms as a 16th birthday pro pro birthday present. That’s impressive. Isn’t that incredible? That’s incredible. That’s the kind of crap that’s out there when you’re on social media back in the day. The only way I could see that kind of crap was to go to his house. So you know what I did Andrew, after I discovered the d, the cesspool of moral depravity. You never went back to his house eight. But now what? People Post that crap, they send you messages, they text you often.

Do you get emails about Viagra? Maybe once a year. Once a month. How often do you get a message? Like, Oh, do you want Viagara? Uh, I don’t think I ever have. What about to the forms for elephant in the room? Are Companies, if you’re saying, oh yeah, the ad forms. Yeah, there’ll be a different businesses or companies that thrive nation. You check, you see the leads that come in for a client. And yet, how often do you see ads or or or you know, is salacious advertisement, spam ads for Viagra coming through all the time. All the time. Every day. Now what happens if you are someone who gets the email and you’re trying to hit delete, right? And you actually click the link. What happens now? You bad spot. You probably going to get a virus or something crazy. It’s the world we live and get off that smart phone baby.

Andrew, what’s the next fun facts? Boy, since social media was created, many people now cannot help from comparing themselves to the people that they are, uh, uh, that they see earning likes and shares on social media. So people like really equate being liked and friended and shared as being successful. It’s value to them. Why? I don’t know. It doesn’t make any sense because people, people see other people earning and gaining success through likes and shares and they think, yeah, they can do it. I was feeling, I almost feel like the most intelligent things don’t get shared on social media. It’s true because it required thinking anyway. Okay. Andrew, what is the next fun fact? But as we talk about Bill Campbell now, Bill Campbell, the business coach of choice, I want your body to make sure we’re getting this. Bill Campbell was the business coach of choice for Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, Steve Jobs, the cofounder of apple, Larry Page, and Sergei Brin, the cofounders of Google, Jeff Bezos, the cofounder of Apple and Andrew.

He wasn’t on a phone when, what? He wasn’t texting when, what he wasn’t what. He was never on a phone when he was talking to anybody. He was 100% present talking to you and he was talking to you in the book trillion dollar coach. It reads right here and a coaching session with bill. You could expect that he would listen intently. No checking his phone for texts or email, no glancing at his watch or out the window with his mind wandering. He was always right there today. It is popular to think about being present or in the moment. We’re pretty sure that those words never passed the coaches lifts yet. He was one of the great practitioners. Al Gore, vice president. Al Gore invented the Internet. Al Gore says he learned from bill how important it is to pay careful attention to the person you are dealing with.

Give your full attention, your undivided attention. Really listening carefully. Only then do you go into the issue. That’s an order. There’s an order to it. Andrew, what does the next fun factoid for the thrive nation? My friends, smartphones allow people to experience near insatiable fear of missing out regardless of uh, or Fomo, fear of missing out, Fomo, regardless of how great what you are actually doing may be smartphones dramatically increase your ability to retain what you are reading. If you use a, if you choose to choose, if you choose to do your reading, uh, while on a smart phone, the more you choose to use a smartphone, the more likely you are to experience depression. You know who I’ve known, who like the amateur amateur guests are on this show. And as, I guess we’ve added an up in the past, two years ago though, years ago.

Right. We’ll have, you know, we had certain people to be on the show and they’d come on the show as a guest, you know, maybe they were advertiser or whatever. Yeah. And they’d be on like their smart phone and I, you know, you could like ask him a question and I have to go back and edit it out, man. Yeah. I’m like, all right, hey, what’s your take on this? And they’re like, Whoa, whoa. You’re the Facebook pop. Yeah. And it’s like they’re not the owner of the company. They’re like the underling who works for the owner of the company and they have to do an obligatory appearance. Yeah. The people who just can’t be undistracted. It’s unbelievable. Now, Andrew, what is fun? Factoid number 14, we have one more to go. Smartphone usage puts, uh, puts you at higher risk for cyber bullying. Have you ever been cyber bullied, Andrew?

Uh, not that I know of really. I probably have been somewhere on the Internet that I don’t visit. I get cyber bullied a lot. You see it, I see it. It’s true. Ah, it’s because you’re successful in successful people are going to be a, they’re going to be quote unquote bullied. They’re going to be hated. They’re going to be, people are going to throw rocks at you because you’ve had success things about me. That’s true. I say bad things. Yep. Now what have I spent my whole day going on Reddit and reading what people say about me? Uh, then that’s what your whole day would consist of. What have I spent my whole day reading iTunes reviews? Again, that’s what your whole day would consist of and you wouldn’t do anything. Last night I went on I tunes and I was looking for approval and I got bad.

You just, you can’t be like that. Nope. You can’t. You gotta be off at smart phone, baby. It’s true. Check this out. Very, very smart people made the smartphone and those very, very smart people use the smartphone a lot less than you. Then you can even at all, you can choose to be used a smart phone as a tool. Yeah. Or The smartphone can make you a tool. Andrew, what’s fun? Factoid number 15 my friend number 15 says, kids who spend more time on screens tend to be significantly less happy than kids who engage in non screen related activities like playing sports or engaging with a tangible printed materials or spending time socializing with real people in real life. Now Andrew, what I’m going to do is I’d like for you to pass this megaphone to John Real quick. Got It. So I can ask him some questions.

Since he’s unmarked on today’s show, he’s, he’s over there. He’s cleaning up the show notes and making sure today’s shows ready to air as we’re, as we’re listening, he’s judging. He’s pontificating on. John, are you megaphone miked up there? Okay, that’s great. So I’m going to ask John the following questions. 22 questions. And John, I’m looking for a yes or a no for each of these questions and thrive nation. I want you to answer the question yourself because this is very important as we’re talking about, uh, ample examples that our human mind can handle of the world’s best business coach, Bill Campbell. Ample examples that the world can handle all from the world’s best business coach Bill Campbell. All right, here we go. So this is the trillion dollar coach. All right, so John, first question, should you have your smart foot on while driving? Okay. No, that’s a a No. John Says No. Ask you mister listener. Is it a no? Is that a yes?

Surely you can’t be serious. I am serious. And don’t call me Shirley.

Okay, so John Says No. So I’m gonna give that to note

that the,

that’s a negative. It’s a non point for the smartphone team. All right. John, should you have your smart phone on while having sex?

No, unless you’re listening,

unless you’re listening to Kenny g interesting tips. So that’s a no and a yes. So it’s like if you’re listening to Kenny g and what you’re doing is you’re going, hey baby, my smart phone is on, but only for marital bliss. That’s the only time you should have. Okay. Ah, principle number. Uh, forgot the way that wasn’t me talking. That was an audio clip of, of John. Yeah. Okay. So are we going to know principle the question number three? Should you be using your smartphone while attending a funeral?

Oh,

it’s so harsh. I don’t know what she said, but why would you want to use it there? I don’t get any of the concert. Just holding it up. John, why would you not want to use a smart phone while at a funeral?

Yeah.

Have you seen people ever use Andrew as smart phone and a funeral before I have on Facebook. Oh Jeez. Okay. Now. Okay, now moving on. Question number four. Should you have your smart phone on while talking to your love interest at a restaurant, John? No. And yet, not just smartphones, not get a lot of points here. Should basketball players be checking their smartphone will actually sitting on the bench while playing any National Basketball Association game? John, he says now. All right. Question number six, should you be interacted with your smartphone while attending an office meeting? John,

no.

Should you be using your smartphone while taking a deuce in the restroom? John?

Negative.

Negative. He dedicated. That is negative. No, you guys, listen here. You, you could be doing some Photoshop while taking the deuce. Whoa. You could be doing some video conference calls. There’s, you guys are pretty harsh with your rules here. All right. Should you be utilizing your smart phone while Standing Up to pee while using the restroom?

Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, you got it? Yes. Efficient. Sean saying that you should want while standing up and holding your smartphone. Smartphone. Yeah. So what’s your calling, why question number nine should you have your smart phone on and filming the concert while attending the concert?

No.

No. Oh, again, so negative. All right. All right. Here we go. Should you be using your smart phone while attending your church service? John?

Wow.

Next question. Should you be using your smart phone while watching a movie at the movie theater? John?

Nope.

No, John did last time you went to a movie theater. Was somebody using their smart phone? Yes. Yes. It’s yes. Yes. That’s a one point for team jackass. Alright. Deep Jackass. Using the smart phone while in the movie. Great. Great job of America. Okay. Now should you be using your smartphone while attaining a birthday party, John? That’s a Duh. That’s debatable.

No.

Oh, okay. And you get a little feedback to that tell you know it’s a megaphone. That’s a real deal. Okay. This is a crazy one. This is a stat from the Huffington post article. Apparently, uh, the United Kingdom decided to put on John. Yeah, you can check the websites that are being visited by particular server or whatever. You know, I guess the United Kingdom decided to put on some type of massive firewall to see what websites people are on while serving in parliament. And they found that a massive amount of adult content was being watched by the workers and the elected officials in parliament. So my question for you is, should you be using your smartphone to access adult content while serving in the United Kingdom’s parliament?

It’s a hard job.

It’s a hard job, but no. Oh God. Pushing report team. Should you be using your smartphone while walking down the street, John?

Yeah.

All right. Should you be using your smartphone? We’ll add a family dinner for Thanksgiving or any other holiday, Jen?

No.

All right. Should we be using your smart foot while attending an educational class?

All book tickets to the thrive time show workshop.

Oh, there is one. That’s okay. I love this. To Lp blue. Say, you know the texting is awesome because it allows you to respond to people when you’re in a meeting where you shouldn’t normally be on the phone. What? I hear that a lot. That’s great. Yeah. Great. Great idea. Yeah. Okay. What do move allows you to be a half ass. Yeah. You Go, oh, this smart phone, so it’s a great idea. Okay. Don’t should you be using your smart phone while somebody is speaking directly to you, John?

Wow.

Should you be using your smartphone to watch various TV programs while working out John?

No.

Although it is funny to watch people try. I watched the guy at the gym about a year ago, step right off of the treadmill and fall as he was trying to watch a movie on a super small screen. I’m not sure that’s the best move. Should you use your smart phone while driving your car to watch movies? John?

Yeah.

Should you be using your smart phone while doing work at your job? Should you be using your smartphone while watching your kids perform at their activity of choice? Gymnastics, swimming, cheerleading, basketball, ballet, football, baseball, hockey. John,

no.

Final question. This one hits home hard pretty hard for me here cause I saw it happen. Should someone be using your smartphone while watching Jerry Seinfeld perform live?

Well, those are 22 scenarios where I have seen people using their smartphones and I think to myself, what’s going on here? But I’m telling you that that’s smart phone man. It will make you dumb. So if you’re out there and you want to be distracted, if you want to get to a place in your life where you’re a chronically controlled by distraction, if you want to get to a place where you never take action because you live in a world of perpetual distraction, then keep on using that smart phone. But if you want to get stuff done, if you want to be a person of action and a person of traction, put that smart phone down because that is an ample example that you can handle all of the world’s best business coach, Bill Campbell, and now, then he further ado, are you ready, Andrew? I am so ready. Here we go. Three, two, one, boom.